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Re: [All] action item clean up and publication schedule

From: Tadej Štajner <tadej.stajner@ijs.si>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:38:58 +0200
Message-ID: <507E98D2.3060708@ijs.si>
To: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Hi Fredrik,
I'll try to explain some of the rationale behind some decisions.

While there is a disambigIdent version, there is no disambigClass: the 
reason is that there already exist practices for representing classes as 
URI resources and they're generally used, this is not yet true for 
disambiguation identifiers: we still need to let people use non-URI 
identifiers, and introducing a new attribute (that is used in 
conjunction wtih disambigSource) made the most sense.

The rest of the comments I agree with - thanks for the thororugh read.
  -- Tadej

On 17. 10. 2012 01:11, Felix Sasaki wrote:
> Hi Fredrik,
>
> thanks a lot for the comments. I tried to implement these at
>
> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#Disambiguation
>
> I think example 54
> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-disambiguation-html5-rdfa
> and 55 are not up to date - Tadej, coud you have a look?
>
> Also, one question below.
>
> 2012/10/16 Fredrik Liden <fliden@enlaso.com <mailto:fliden@enlaso.com>>
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     after looking at the latest Disambiguation section here are a few
>     comments and possibly nitpicking:
>
>     * "None of exactly one of the following:" should be "None or
>     exactly one of the following:"
>
>     * Under 6.10.2 Implementation, in list, initial cap: a
>     disambigIdentRefPointer attribute.
>
>     * I think in example 52 should the selector should be changed from
>
>        selector="/text/body/p/[@id='dublin']"
>
>        to
>
>        selector="/text/body/p/span[@id='dublin']" or
>     selector="/text/body/p/*[@id='dublin']"
>
>     *
>
>        ◦A disambigIdentPointer attribute...
>
>     ◦A disambigIdentRef attribute... Would it be better to list the
>     following in this order to be consistent with Localization Note
>     and Terminology (Or follow the order in the latest Translation
>     Agent Provenance, consistent one way or the other)? I found the
>     disambigClassPointer in between the two slightly confusing
>     especially since there is no plain disambigClass:
>
>     ◦A disambigClassPointer attribute...
>
>     ◦A disambigClassRef attribute...
>
>     ◦A disambigClassRefPointer attribute...
>
>        And
>
>     ◦A disambigIdent attribute...
>
>     ◦a disambigIdentRefPointer attribute...
>
>        1. Initial cap A (mentioned above).
>        2. Replace "◦A XYX attribute. It contains" with "◦A XYX
>     attribute that contains" to be consistent
>
>     * Perhaps clarify "When using a disambiguation rule, the user MUST
>     use one of the use cases for disambiguation:"
>
>     Should it be "When using a disambiguation rule, the user MUST use
>     at least one of the use cases for disambiguation:" to be clear.
>     But it seems it's illustrated by the example that both can be
>     used. Optionally, change the list format to the one used in some
>     other data categories se bottom, that might clarify the options.
>
>     * Under LOCAL:
>
>     "The user MUST use only one of the two addressing modes for
>     disambiguation:"
>
>     Should this perhaps say "The user MUST use only one of the two
>     addressing modes for "target identity" disambiguation:" to not
>     confuse it with the above sentence.
>
>
> What is the below for?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Felix
>
>     •At least one of the following:
>
>         •Exactly one of the following:
>
>     ◦A disambigClassRef..
>
>     ◦A disambigClassPointer..
>
>     ◦A disambigClassRefPointer ..
>
>         •One or more of the following:
>
>            •Exactly one of the following:
>
>     ◦A disambigIdent attribute..
>
>     ◦A disambigIdentRef attribute..
>
>     ◦A disambigIdentPointer attribute..
>
>     ◦A disambigIdentRefPointer attribute..
>
>            •An optional disambigSource attribute..
>
>     •An optional disambigGranularity attribute..
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     __________________________________________________
>
>
>     Fredrik Liden
>     Localization Engineer
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Yves Savourel
>     Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:44 AM
>     To: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
>     <mailto:public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
>     Subject: RE: [All] action item clean up and publication schedule
>
>     > while the text is up-to-date, the examples seem to be a couple of
>
>     > versions behind - in the last few iterations we were only
>     circulating
>
>     > the .doc, so it may have got out of sync.
>
>     > I'm attaching the latest examples here - without
>     disambigSourceRef, etc.
>
>     Thanks Tadej. I'll update the spec later today.
>
>     > Is HTML also case-insensitive for attribute values?
>
>     > For element and attribute names it is, not sure about literal
>     values.
>
>     > If so, we could change the spec to use dashes (ontologyConcept ->
>
>     > ontology-concept).
>
>     I'm not sure for the values. Jirka or Felix would know for sure.
>     Maybe it's not an issue.
>
>     -yves
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Felix Sasaki
> DFKI / W3C Fellow
>
Received on Wednesday, 17 October 2012 11:40:13 UTC

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