RE: [All] testing - reminder (due TODAY) and "how to": please fill in testing table

Will have this in mind!
With best wishes,
Tatiana

From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:12 PM
To: Tatiana Gornostay
Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Subject: RE: [All] testing - reminder (due TODAY) and "how to": please fill in testing table


Thank you, Tatiana, all, that sounds indeed like a good use of global rules. Maybe your team wants to create an example for that? That's always easier to explain to "outsiders".

Best,

Felix
Am 05.10.2012 15:58 schrieb "Tatiana Gornostay" <tatiana.gornostay@tilde.lv<mailto:tatiana.gornostay@tilde.lv>>:
Sorry, forgot to forward my colleague’s comment:


In a machine term annotation process, the global rules are actually not necessary. All annotation can be embedded into local tags, which is much more productive and easier for systems to read and understand than multiple layers of global rules. However, we could use global rules for automated processes to understand whether specific mark-up is existing in the documents and use that in order to, for instance, not re-annotate something or not to create overlapping term annotations. (Mārcis Pinnis)

Any feedback/suggestions/comments are welcome!

Have a nice weekend,
Tatiana

From: Tatiana Gornostay [mailto:tatiana.gornostay@tilde.lv<mailto:tatiana.gornostay@tilde.lv>]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 4:54 PM
To: Felix Sasaki; public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org<mailto:public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
Subject: RE: [All] testing - reminder (due TODAY) and "how to": please fill in testing table

Dear Felix, Dear All,

It’s done for Tilde terminology use case.

With best wishes,
Tatiana

From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org<mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 10:12 AM
To: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org<mailto:public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
Subject: [All] testing - reminder (due TODAY) and "how to": please fill in testing table

Dear all,

this is a reminder to fill in the test suite table at
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgIk0-aoSKOadG5HQmJDT2EybWVvVC1VbnF5alN2S3c#gid=0

by today.

Also, a clarification: ITS 2.0 has conformance statements: if you implement a data category, you must do it
1) globally or locally, in each case taking overriding, inheritance and defaults into account (if applicable)
2} in HTML or XML

Combinations of 1) and 2) are fine too, e.g. HTML locally, XML globally.

Now, how does this relate to the test suite?
If you implement a data category globally, just MUST do testing for all tests that are available for global (for XML or HTML or both - that's your choice). An example: for nearly all data categories you have global embedded or linked rules, at least for XML. It is not possible to do cherry picking, that is do only embedded or linked rules testing.

Why is that? See this from the point of view of a user: if you claim conformance to implement a data category, globally, the user wants to see if you implement all aspects of global.

Above explanation is specific to global, but the same is true if you implement something locally.

I hope that this clarifies things - let me know otherwise. Please be prepared for a sanity check of the test suite current state on Monday.

Best,

Felix


--
Felix Sasaki
DFKI / W3C Fellow