AW: MLW-LT Data categorie > process state

Hello Pedro,

 

Yes, I would agree and I'm glad they are in the requirements document. I've
observed that there are two main categories for our data categories:

a)      metadata for the content itself

b)      metadata for the processes of dealing with content

Both are important and both are necessary for WP3. We'll just have to take a
closer look at all of them and identify the ones which are really relevant
for our specific implementation.

 

My response wasn't specific to your message, just observed that fact that our
requirements document is growing nicely and two 'main' categories are
emerging. :)

 

Cheers,

Moritz

 

Von: "Pedro L. Díez Orzas" [mailto:pedro.diez@linguaserve.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. April 2012 15:31
An: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Betreff: RE: MLW-LT Data categorie > process state

 

Dear all,

 

Thank you very much Moritz. Our opinion is that this should be included
because this is included in the scope, since the 3 main goals of LT-Web are:

 

(http://cordis.europa.eu/projects/rcn/101839_en.html):

The goal of LT-Web is to set the foundation for the integration of language
technologies into core Web technologies, via the creation of a standard
defining three kinds of metadata about: 1) information in Web content being
relevant for language technology processing; 2) processes for creating Web
content via localisation and content management work flows; 3) language
technology applications and resources used in these applications. The
organizations participating in LT-Web will join the World Wide Web Consortium
(W3C) and create a group defining the metadata standard, within the
Internationalization Activity of W3C. 

 

We think that the "process state" or "process trigger" responds to the 2nd
goal: 2) processes for creating Web content via localisation and content
management work flows. Also, we think this is one of the most interensting
part for part of the implementations of WP3. We also consider that the data
model we proposed do not contain really fine-grained process info, but only
the basic info to widely define any localisation process (concerning
workflows, for intance: processRequested -value: code or plain text (e.g. an
action or workflow name)).

 

Best,

Pedro

 

 

________________________________

De: Moritz Hellwig [mailto:Moritz.Hellwig@cocomore.com] 
Enviado el: jueves, 05 de abril de 2012 14:44
Para: "Pedro L. Díez Orzas"; public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
Asunto: AW: MLW-LT Data categorie > process state

 

Hello all,

 

Cheers for the update. 

 

As the list of data catagories is becoming quite large, I'd like to pose a
question: Is MLW-LT metadata meant to include metadata for very fine-grained
processes in CMS content and/or language services too? There are some
categories which are mostly concerned with the processing of content (e.g.
the proposed process trigger to some extent) and others are concerned with
the content itself (no translate, terminology, ...).

 

I'm wondering whether we need to clarify how big the scope of the
requirements is supposed to be. From the CMS point of view, metadata which
can support content management and/or content publishing workflows are a very
good thing, but since we are not allowed to remove metadata from content,
metadata in the content can become very big it seems. Personally, I think
these information should be included in the requirements document, but might
be out of scope for the two implementations necessary for the W3C
Recommendation.

 

Cheers,

Moritz

 

Von: "Pedro L. Díez Orzas" [mailto:pedro.diez@linguaserve.com]
<mailto:[mailto:pedro.diez@linguaserve.com]>  
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 19:48
An: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
<mailto:public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org> 
Betreff: MLW-LT Data categorie > process state

 

Dear all,

 

I do not know if this is a new issue, or it is related with issue-1, or with
ACTION-20 open Gather CMS user and developer perspective requirements from
MLW-LT, including from drupal con.

 

I discussed with Arle, that the current metadata related with localization
processes where mostly "passive" (declaring the resulting state) and not
"active" (driving the following process). In the current version of process
state in the requirements it seems to reflect also this disjunctive:

 

We doubt that the current metadata do cover the metadata to express "guidance
for localization process", that is in the "active" sense. 

 

The data category "process state" should do it, by itself and/or by using
other additional data categories. 

 

In this sense, if "process state" is reserved for indicating "the current
state of the content within a localization process", we would suggest another
like "process trigger", and this data category could have the following data
model:

 

process trigger

provides information to guide a process of localization of content

 

Data model

 

*	processRequested -value: code or plain text (e.g. an action or
workflow name)
*	contentFormat -values: plainText, xml, html3, html4, html5. El level
sería element.
*	targetLangs - values: standard ISO values
*	pivotLang - value: standard ISO value
*	dateRequest -value: date and time
*	dateDelivery -value: date and time
*	priotity -value: numeric
*	contentResult -value: monolingual, multilingual

 

 

 

Other existing data categories can be also used combined with this, like
"provenance - source language" to express the source language; "special
requirements" to info about length limitations; 

 

 

 

 

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