- From: Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:12:45 +0000
- To: Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
- Cc: Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMYWBwvKsD3eVmwJ-zXrPZx7g+uufabgtiAzNAqhEAoXQhk9_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Hey Yves, I have corrected the html file https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/blob/master/its2.0/inputdata/languageinformation/html/languageinfo4html.html it will now vaildate as XHTML strict. Leroy On 30 January 2013 15:09, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote: > I think I have the solution to the errors. But I will have to re-do the > file. > > Leroy > > > On 30 January 2013 15:02, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote: > >> Sorry I had the wrong DOCTYPE in place. I have changed the DOCTYPE to: >> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" " >> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> >> >> The errors now detected are only ITS based. >> >> Leroy >> >> >> On 30 January 2013 14:46, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote: >> >>> One more note: I’m not quite sure the input file is a valid XHTML >>> document.**** >>> >>> it’s detected as an (invalid) HTML5 document with the W3C validator.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -ys**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* Leroy Finn [mailto:finnle@tcd.ie] >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:22 AM >>> *To:* Arle Lommel >>> *Cc:* Yves Savourel; <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: question on issue-110 (xml:lang vs. lang)**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I have added the output now along with updating the test suite dashboard >>> for this new test.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The input is located here: >>> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/blob/master/its2.0/inputdata/languageinformation/html/languageinfo4html.html >>> **** >>> >>> The output is located here: >>> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/blob/master/its2.0/expected/languageinformation/html/languageinfo4htmloutput.txt >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Let me know if this is okay,**** >>> >>> Leroy**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On 30 January 2013 13:41, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote:**** >>> >>> Everyone this test file now has been added here: >>> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/blob/master/its2.0/inputdata/languageinformation/html/languageinfo4html.html . >>> I will add the output soon. So issue-110 can be closed for Ankit.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Cheers,**** >>> >>> Leroy**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On 29 January 2013 10:09, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote:**** >>> >>> Okay I will add this test file today based on this discussion.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Leroy**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On 28 January 2013 21:32, Arle Lommel <arle.lommel@dfki.de> wrote:**** >>> >>> Anything else would be tremendously unintuitive for most users and would >>> create strange problems. So +1 to Yves and Shaun. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Arle >>> >>> --**** >>> >>> *Arle Lommel***** >>> >>> Berlin, Germany**** >>> >>> Skype: arle_lommel**** >>> >>> Phone (US): +1 707 709 8650**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse any typos.***** >>> >>> >>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 21:21, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote:** >>> ** >>> >>> +1 on Shaun's comments. >>> (especially "...xml:lang to take precedence over lang only when defined >>> on the same node") >>> >>> -ys >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Shaun McCance [mailto:shaunm@gnome.org <shaunm@gnome.org>] >>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:28 PM >>> To: Felix Sasaki >>> Cc: Jirka Kosek; public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org >>> Subject: Re: question on issue-110 (xml:lang vs. lang)**** >>> >>> On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 12:17 +0100, Felix Sasaki wrote: >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Am 25.01.13 11:19, schrieb Jirka Kosek:**** >>> >>> On 25.1.2013 9:01, Felix Sasaki wrote:**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> we had discussed on Wednesday**** >>> >>> http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-mlw-lt-irc#T11-36-22**** >>> >>> that xml:lang and lang take precedence over the BCP 47 value **** >>> >>> conveyed by a "langRule". One clarification question: should we **** >>> >>> state that this relation also includes inherited values? e.g.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> <html xml:lang="en" ...>...**** >>> >>> <its:langRule selector="//h:p" langPointer="@class"> ...**** >>> >>> <body lang="ja"> ...**** >>> >>> <p class="de">...**** >>> >>> </html>**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> In this case the output of processing "langRule" would convey "en":**** >>> >>> xml:lang takes precedence over HTML lang. And xml:lang inherits to "p".* >>> *** >>> >>> My instinct says that inheritence shouldn't be applied here and for **** >>> >>> p element language should be selected using langRule.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Fine by me - so the output in the test suite would be**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> /html lang="en"**** >>> >>> ...**** >>> >>> /html/body[1] lang="ja"**** >>> >>> /html/body[1]/p[1] lang="de"**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Now, if "p" contains a "span" element, what would the language be? **** >>> >>> Probably**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> /html/body[1]/p[1]/span[1] lang="de"**** >>> >>> >>> I would say certainly lang="de". I would also expect xml:lang to take >>> precedence over lang only when defined on the same node, so I would expect >>> the language to be "ja" on body. >>> >>> getLang(node): >>> if node/@xml:lang: return node/@xml:lang >>> if node/@lang: return node/@lang >>> if node selected by a langRule: return value from rule >>> if node.parent: return getLang(node.parent) >>> else: return "" >>> >>> Seems to me that's the same algorithm we use for all other data >>> categories, except we don't define our own local attribute, using xml:lang >>> and lang instead. >>> >>> -- >>> Shaun >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >> >> >
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