RE: [LT-Web] Test Suite output

Hi Mārcis,

 

I’ve checked our code and we had a bug in our implementation: the handler for the local HTML’s lang was not defined.

So I’m now getting the three attached files for HTML.

 

There may be still another problem in our code as we still get the same output for html1.

 

I think that test needs to be redone because the way it is: we don’t know if the result is generated by the local lang or by the global rule.

(and the global rules are a bit weird too: the first one serves no purpose)

 

I’ll try to find some time to look more into it tomorrow. Hopefully others can double/triple check the output.

 

cheers,

-yves

 

 

 

From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:49 AM
To: Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public
Cc: Mārcis Pinnis; Pēteris Ņikiforovs; Andis Lagzdiņš
Subject: [LT-Web] Test Suite output

 

 

Forwarded on behalf of Mārcis (there is a subscription issue for the tests list) and putting Mārcis and his colleagues in CC. Implementers, please have a look at Mārcis' issue.

Thanks,

Felix

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Hi everyone,

 

We (in Tilde) are working through the Test Suite and for Language Information we find the expected results not to represent what is said in http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#language-information and http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#datacategories-defaults-etc.

 

The first question:

 

The input in HTML example 1 is as follows:

<!DOCTYPE html>

<html lang="en">

  <head>

   <meta charset=utf-8>

   <link href="languageinfo1htmlrules.xml" rel="its-rules"/>

   <title>EXAMPLE</title>

  </head>

  <body>

   <p>The motto of Québec is:

    <q>Je me souviens</q>

  .</p>

   <p>La devise du Québec est :

    <q lang="fr-CA">Je me souviens</q>

  .</p>

  </body>

</html>

 

The acompanying rules file defines the following:

<its:rules xmlns:its= <http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its> "http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its" xmlns:h= <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml> "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" version="2.0">

<its:langRule selector="/h:*" langPointer="@lang"/>

<its:langRule selector="//h:*" langPointer="@lang"/>

</its:rules>

 

The expected output is:

/html  lang="en"

/html/@lang   lang="en"

/html/head[1]

/html/head[1]/meta[1]

/html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset

/html/head[1]/link[1]

/html/head[1]/link[1]/@href

/html/head[1]/link[1]/@rel

/html/head[1]/title[1]

/html/body[1]

/html/body[1]/p[1]

/html/body[1]/p[1]/q[1]

/html/body[1]/p[2]

/html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]    lang="fr-CA"

/html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]/@lang     lang="fr-CA"

 

However, our parser produces the following (and we tend to believe that this is correct!):

/html  lang="en"

/html/@lang   lang="en"

/html/head[1] lang="en"

/html/head[1]/meta[1]      lang="en"

/html/head[1]/meta[1]/@charset    lang="en"

/html/head[1]/link[1]      lang="en"

/html/head[1]/link[1]/@href lang="en"

/html/head[1]/link[1]/@rel lang="en"

/html/head[1]/title[1]     lang="en"

/html/body[1] lang="en"

/html/body[1]/p[1]   lang="en"

/html/body[1]/p[1]/q[1]    lang="en"

/html/body[1]/p[2]   lang="en"

/html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]    lang="fr-CA"

/html/body[1]/p[2]/q[1]/@lang     lang="fr-CA"

 

I marked the difference in red.

 

The language information data category specifies the following inheritance rules:

„Textual content of element, including attributes and child elements”

 

This (as I understand it) means that everything within <html> is in English except the second <q> tag.

 

This issue is in all three HTML language information examples in the Test Suite.

 

A second question:

I find confusing the definition and parsing of the other two language information examples.

 

I understand that language information is added at a global level, however, the ITS 2.0 reference says:

Locally users are able to use xml:lang (which is defined by XML), or lang in HTML, or an attribute specific to the format in question (as in Example 51 <http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#EX-lang-definition-1> ).

 

After reading this sentence I have the understanding that the „lang” attribute is equally important for language information parsing than global rules (regardless of where they point).

 

That being said, is the expected output correct in the second and third examples (the first lang =”en” fragment was ignored in the expected output)?

 

Best regards,

Mārcis ;o)

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