- From: Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:04:48 +0100
- To: Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
- Cc: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>, Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMYWBwvvu4BT1KV5AgpW1FZ46mnzjZxqvLbzpQ8Q_po1C8gFCg@mail.gmail.com>
I have committed the updates for input and output for provenance html. The commit can be seen here https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/commit/86db8050b3a95ea5de5c9812395d111d0d1639b1 Thanks, Leroy On 21 August 2013 13:55, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote: > Thanks that has cleared things up for me. I will do the changes to HTML > prov now. > > Thanks, > Leroy > > > On 21 August 2013 13:25, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote: > >> Sorry I didn’t pay attention to the provRule selector. >> Yes, that would work. >> >> -ys >> >> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:17 PM >> To: Yves Savourel >> Cc: 'Leroy Finn'; 'Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public' >> Subject: Re: Question on >> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/pull/22/ >> >> Am 21.08.13 14:12, schrieb Yves Savourel: >> Shouldn’t the anchor include the content? >> Like: >> >> <p class="prov-records-ref"><a href="#pr1">This paragraph was translated >> from the machine. </a></p> >> >> Probably rather not - the empty anchor emphasizes that this is not >> something to click on. If it includes the content a brower would >> display it with blue underline. >> >> - Felix >> >> >> >> >> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:47 PM >> To: Leroy Finn >> Cc: Yves Savourel; Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public >> Subject: Re: Question on >> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/pull/22/ >> >> Am 21.08.13 13:28, schrieb Leroy Finn: >> Just to clarify before I make the update to the HTML test suite files and >> remove the global examples for HTML that the following is >> stated in the draft (see underlined): >> >> "The Provenance data category can be expressed with global rules, or >> locally on individual elements. For elements, the data category >> information inherits to the textual content of the >> element, including child elements and attributes." >> >> If we are saying we can't do it for HTML but we can for XML this should >> probably be changed in the draft. As Felix stated: >> >> What would be the proper replacement for the "id" attribute here - any >> idea? .. e.g. HTML "p" you can only use id, class, style, >> title, align - nothing seems to fit. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Good point. However, I wouldn't change that in the draft. It would be >> strange to have global provenance only for XML. How about >> this: >> >> <html> >> <head> >> <meta charset=utf-8> >> <title>Test</title> >> <script id=pr1 type=application/its+xml> >> <its:provenanceRecords xml:id="pr1" xmlns:its=" >> http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its"> >> <its:provenanceRecord >> toolRef="http://www.onlinemtex.com/2012/7/25/wsdl/" >> org="acme-CAT-v2.3" >> provRef=" >> http://www.examplelsp.com/excontent987/production/prov/e6354" >> revToolRef="http://www.mycat.com/v1.0/download" >> revOrg="acme-CAT-v2.3" /> >> </its:provenanceRecords> >> </script> >> <script id=pr2 type=application/its+xml> >> <its:provenanceRecords xml:id="pr2" xmlns:its=" >> http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its"> >> <its:provenanceRecord >> person="John Doe" >> orgRef="http://www.legaltrans-ex.com/" >> provRef="http://www.examplelsp.com/excontent987/legal/prov/e6354 >> " >> revPerson="Tommy Atkins" >> revOrgRef="http://www.example.myorg.com" /> >> <its:provenanceRecord >> revPerson="John Smith" >> revOrgRef="http://john-smith.qa.example.com" /> >> </its:provenanceRecords> >> </script> >> </head> >> <body> >> <p class="prov-records-ref"><a href="#pr1"></a>This paragraph was >> translated from the machine.</p> >> <p class="prov-records-ref"><a href="#pr2"></a>This text was >> translated directly by a person.</p> >> </body> >> </html> >> >> and a rules file like this >> >> <its:rules version="2.0"> >> <its:provRule selector="//*[@class='prov-records-ref']" >> provenanceRecordsRefPointer="h:a/@href"/> >> </its:rules> >> >> >> I see a use case in which users don't want to have local its-* attributes >> in HTML. They then could so something like the above >> (using the empty "a" elements). >> >> - Felix >> >> >> >> >> Leroy >> >> On 21 August 2013 11:32, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote: >> I have pushed the XML update. I did it in a similar fashion that >> you recommended Felix see the commit here both input and output for >> XML were updated . I will do the HTML update now. >> >> XML Commit: >> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/commit/0e5171eb9cf465a3536f330dfe253337c9ca8efd >> >> Leroy >> >> On 21 August 2013 10:19, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote: >> Makes both sense, thanks a lot, Leroy. >> >> Best, >> >> Felix >> >> Am 21.08.13 11:17, schrieb Leroy Finn: >> Also I will correct the xml files now. >> >> Thanks, >> Leroy >> >> On 21 August 2013 10:10, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie> wrote: >> Yeah I see what you mean the error occurs with 'id' attribute in 4 out of >> the 8 HTML examples namely : 1,2,5 and 8. What course of >> action should I take? Should i just replace id >> with its-provenance-records-ref? >> >> Thanks, >> Leroy >> >> On 21 August 2013 08:50, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote: >> I was wondering that too. >> Not sure. I suppose class could hold the URI even of the value is not a >> URI type. >> >> The truth is probably that it’s unlikely that someone use a global rule >> with provenanceRecordsRefPointer when the attribute >> its-provenance-records-ref can be used inside the document. >> >> -ys >> >> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:08 AM >> To: Yves Savourel >> Cc: 'Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public' >> Subject: Re: Question on >> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/pull/22/ >> >> Am 21.08.13 08:35, schrieb Yves Savourel: >> By the way: it looks like we have the same incorrect use of id in most of >> the HTML examples too. >> >> Good point. What would be the proper replacement for the "id" attribute >> here - any idea? At e.g. HTML "p" you can only use id, >> class, style, title, align - nothing seems to fit. >> >> - Felix >> >> >> >> -ys >> >> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:13 AM >> To: Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public >> Subject: Question on https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/pull/22/ >> >> Hi all, >> >> see >> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/pull/22/ >> and the proposed change at >> >> https://github.com/garfieldnate/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/commit/1417ef0408876a0bc525d1e9b51c5e5b7c016197 >> garfieldnate is right about xml:id. I am just wondering whether xml:id is >> the right attribute here. Or should the file (relevent >> part below) rather look like this? >> >> >> <its:rules version="2.0"> >> <its:provRule selector="/text/body/par" >> provenanceRecordsRefPointer="@ref"/> >> <its:provRule selector="/text/body/legalnotice" >> provenanceRecordsRefPointer="@ref"/> >> </its:rules> >> <title>Translation Revision Provenance Agent: Global Test in XML</title> >> <body> >> <par ref="#pr1"> This paragraph was translated from the machine.</par> >> <legalnotice ref="#pr2">This text was >> translated directly by a person.</legalnotice> >> </body> >> >> Best, >> >> Felix >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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