- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:46:31 +0200
- To: Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie>
- CC: Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>, Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public <public-multilingualweb-lt-tests@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <5214A897.4070202@w3.org>
Am 21.08.13 13:28, schrieb Leroy Finn: > Just to clarify before I make the update to the HTML test suite files > and remove the global examples for HTML that the following is stated > in the draft (see underlined): > > */"The Provenance > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#provenance> data > category can be expressed with _global rules_, or locally on > individual elements. For elements, the data category information > inherits > <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#def-inheritance> to > the textual content of the element, including child elements and > attributes."/* > > > If we are saying we can't do it for HTML but we can for XML this > should probably be changed in the draft. As Felix stated: > > *What would be the proper replacement for the "id" attribute here > - any idea? .. e.g. HTML "p" you can only use id, class, style, > title, align - nothing seems to fit.* > > > Any thoughts? Good point. However, I wouldn't change that in the draft. It would be strange to have global provenance only for XML. How about this: <html> <head> <meta charset=utf-8> <title>Test</title> <script id=pr1 type=application/its+xml> <its:provenanceRecords xml:id="pr1" xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its"> <its:provenanceRecord toolRef="http://www.onlinemtex.com/2012/7/25/wsdl/" org="acme-CAT-v2.3" provRef="http://www.examplelsp.com/excontent987/production/prov/e6354" revToolRef="http://www.mycat.com/v1.0/download" revOrg="acme-CAT-v2.3" /> </its:provenanceRecords> </script> <script id=pr2 type=application/its+xml> <its:provenanceRecords xml:id="pr2" xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its"> <its:provenanceRecord person="John Doe" orgRef="http://www.legaltrans-ex.com/" provRef="http://www.examplelsp.com/excontent987/legal/prov/e6354" revPerson="Tommy Atkins" revOrgRef="http://www.example.myorg.com" /> <its:provenanceRecord revPerson="John Smith" revOrgRef="http://john-smith.qa.example.com" /> </its:provenanceRecords> </script> </head> <body> <p class="prov-records-ref"><a href="#pr1"></a>This paragraph was translated from the machine.</p> <p class="prov-records-ref"><a href="#pr2"></a>This text was translated directly by a person.</p> </body> </html> and a rules file like this <its:rules version="2.0"> <its:provRule selector="//*[@class='prov-records-ref']" provenanceRecordsRefPointer="h:a/@href"/> </its:rules> I see a use case in which users don't want to have local its-* attributes in HTML. They then could so something like the above (using the empty "a" elements). - Felix > > Leroy > > > On 21 August 2013 11:32, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie > <mailto:finnle@tcd.ie>> wrote: > > I have pushed the XML update. I did it in a similar fashion that > you recommended Felix see the commit here both input and output > for XML were updated . I will do the HTML update now. > > XML Commit: > https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/commit/0e5171eb9cf465a3536f330dfe253337c9ca8efd > > Leroy > > > On 21 August 2013 10:19, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org > <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote: > > Makes both sense, thanks a lot, Leroy. > > Best, > > Felix > > Am 21.08.13 11:17, schrieb Leroy Finn: >> Also I will correct the xml files now. >> >> Thanks, >> Leroy >> >> >> On 21 August 2013 10:10, Leroy Finn <finnle@tcd.ie >> <mailto:finnle@tcd.ie>> wrote: >> >> Yeah I see what you mean the error occurs with 'id' >> attribute in 4 out of the 8 HTML examples namely : 1,2,5 >> and 8. What course of action should I take? Should i just >> replace id with its-provenance-records-ref? >> >> Thanks, >> Leroy >> >> >> On 21 August 2013 08:50, Yves Savourel >> <ysavourel@enlaso.com <mailto:ysavourel@enlaso.com>> wrote: >> >> I was wondering that too. >> Not sure. I suppose class could hold the URI even of >> the value is not a URI type. >> >> The truth is probably that it’s unlikely that someone >> use a global rule with provenanceRecordsRefPointer >> when the attribute >> its-provenance-records-ref can be used inside the >> document. >> >> -ys >> >> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org >> <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:08 AM >> To: Yves Savourel >> Cc: 'Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public' >> Subject: Re: Question on >> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/pull/22/ >> >> Am 21.08.13 08:35, schrieb Yves Savourel: >> By the way: it looks like we have the same incorrect >> use of id in most of the HTML examples too. >> >> Good point. What would be the proper replacement for >> the "id" attribute here - any idea? At e.g. HTML "p" >> you can only use id, >> class, style, title, align - nothing seems to fit. >> >> - Felix >> >> >> >> -ys >> >> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org >> <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:13 AM >> To: Multilingual Web LT-TESTS Public >> Subject: Question on >> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/pull/22/ >> >> Hi all, >> >> see >> https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/pull/22/ >> and the proposed change at >> https://github.com/garfieldnate/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/commit/1417ef0408876a0bc525d1e9b51c5e5b7c016197 >> garfieldnate is right about xml:id. I am just >> wondering whether xml:id is the right attribute here. >> Or should the file (relevent >> part below) rather look like this? >> >> >> <its:rules version="2.0"> >> <its:provRule selector="/text/body/par" >> provenanceRecordsRefPointer="@ref"/> >> <its:provRule selector="/text/body/legalnotice" >> provenanceRecordsRefPointer="@ref"/> >> </its:rules> >> <title>Translation Revision Provenance Agent: Global >> Test in XML</title> >> <body> >> <par ref="#pr1"> This paragraph was translated >> from the machine.</par> >> <legalnotice ref="#pr2">This text was >> translated directly by a person.</legalnotice> >> </body> >> >> Best, >> >> Felix >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
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