Re: MATF Minutes September 24, 2020

On 25/09/2020 00:34, Chris McMeeking wrote:
> Then stop doing that ;)

 From the minutes, it appeared you were the one pushing for that 
distinction...

 > Chris: in mobile I don't see that this is a problem so why not let 
desktop people just decide

 > Chris: I understand but let's reserve the desktop website 
conversation for the desktop folks and focus on solving the mobile side 
of the problem which is Trivially solved

To the comment about two distinct user groups (keyboard mouse vs touch) 
I would once again suggest that the distinction is not as clear-cut 
anymore today, and multi-input scenarios also need to be considered. 
It's not necessarily just a single input modality these days.

https://css-tricks.com/interaction-media-features-and-their-potential-for-incorrect-assumptions/

For avoidance of doubt though, I'd be in favour on actually dropping 
this SC, which has already seen considerable pushback, rather than 
picking more semi-random or arbitrary values (divide by two, then add 4 
pixels) - and while it's valuable to gather more research, I recall that 
we went through that exercise the first time around for 2.1, with the 
various pieces of research not holding up to closer scrutiny/being very 
limited in in scope and not directly applicable at web scale / different 
screen resolution / different physical size of the displays.

Even for 2.1, we did seem to come back to the fact that users can 
already zoom/enlarge content to better suit both reading and operating 
it (and yes, with distinctions on how the zooming/enlarging works on 
different platforms - with potential reflowing/adapting on 
desktop/laptop OS browsers, and non-reflow zooming on mobile/tablet OS 
browsers). I seem to remember at the time it was decided to move ahead 
with the 44x44 size because even though users *could* zoom, it was more 
usable/nice to have not to force them to, and since it was AAA it seemed 
appropriate. But that rationale does become harder to justify when 
making it a AA requirement.

P
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