MATF Minutes October 29, 2020

*MATF Minutes October 29, 2020
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*Link: https://www.w3.org/2020/10/29-mobile-a11y-minutes.html*
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  Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference


    29 Oct 2020


    Attendees

Present
    JakeAbma, Kim, Sukriti
Regrets

Chair
    Kimberly_Patch
Scribe
    Kim_patch


    Contents

  * Topics <https://www.w3.org/2020/10/29-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#agenda>
  * Summary of Action Items
    <https://www.w3.org/2020/10/29-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  * Summary of Resolutions
    <https://www.w3.org/2020/10/29-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>


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https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/1432

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_EHFVE-p4jEtKFa2jMEUruSvu6iv-Vt7UxRW9SrHTCQ/edit#heading=h.tuvbez1itgj0

Jake: current wording doesn't prevent overlapping targets and 
overlapping targets would make target size smaller
... this is not the original intent – if the target spacing is 
overlapping it's 18, not 24
... because it says the target and the nearest edge of the closest 
target. You can end up with targets of 8 x 8 pixels and you need to add 
it on top because four plus eight is 12, but then they are only 16 pixels.

Sukriti: but if we don't allow spacing to be part of this we 
dincentivize that behavior. I really think we should go with a 24 pixel 
version of the AAA version

Jake: the issue is that breaks a lot of webpages.

Sukriti: the other counterargument that people were making is 24 is not 
enough. We could say to keep it online that spacing cannot overlap. It 
becomes a tough thing to explain within an already complex – center of 
the target.

Jake: the disadvantage of the 24 pixel will be all these links need to 
have a lot more padding four links that aren't part of a sentence or 
block of text
... the other option, they don't need padding the only thing that they 
need is to have a margin top of eight pixels. You leave those targets 
alone, but you need to create way more margin. In the other case you 
need to create bigger target areas. The result is the same but the way 
to adjust everything is completely different.
... although we would like the 24 the other one might work better 
because it doesn't require as much to be adjusted
... target 18 high you do not have to do anything about it in the second 
version, but if there is no other target around you do not need to 
change it in the second version

Sukriti: if -looking is not an issue just hitting a target, that makes sense
... how can we explain this well

Added overlapping to address this issue

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_EHFVE-p4jEtKFa2jMEUruSvu6iv-Vt7UxRW9SrHTCQ/edit#heading=h.tuvbez1itgj0

<scribe> *ACTION:* Sukriti will send note to Alastair about the change

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<scribe> *ACTION:* Sukriti will send note to Alastair about the change

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    Summary of Action Items

*[NEW]* *ACTION:* Sukriti will send note to Alastair about the change


    Summary of Resolutions

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