MATF Minutes August 20, 2020

*MATF Minutes August 20, 2020
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Link: https://www.w3.org/2020/08/20-mobile-a11y-minutes.html

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  Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference


    20 Aug 2020


    Attendees

Present
    Kim_Patch, Jennifer, Kathy, Detlev, Sukriti
Regrets

Chair
    Kathleen_Wahlbin
Scribe
    Kim_Patch


    Contents

  * Topics <https://www.w3.org/2020/08/20-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#agenda>
  * Summary of Action Items
    <https://www.w3.org/2020/08/20-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  * Summary of Resolutions
    <https://www.w3.org/2020/08/20-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>


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Kathy: I'll explain what we're doing with the mobile app
... we've primarily been working on mobile web accessibility – we've 
created success criteria the of gone under number two point one and 
number two point two. We're not clear whether or not there's going to be 
a 2.3.or not but were going to put our brainwork into silver
... a question that comes up a lot is how does mobile apps come into this
... WCAC ICT document applicable to software – needed one standard to 
reference for both web and software and Section 508 standards
... the new guidelines have an explanation of web mobile and how that's 
applicable to apps so that will be one of our reference points but the 
idea here is to create a document that is WCAG – how the mobile is 
applicable to mobile apps especially since mobile apps are being used 
more and more for all sorts of different things
... so this is an important focus

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ouf3g0W-JNuVra_ovLkzigQKuRJSm26emYgnxxMY5gg/edit#heading=h.x5k2waezm3nf

<Kathy> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ouf3g0W-JNuVra_ovLkzigQKuRJSm26emYgnxxMY5gg/edit#heading=h.x5k2waezm3nf

Kathy: there's a coordination group between AG and the taskforces – one 
thing they asked is what should we be focusing on – this outlines what 
other things that we should be looking at
... in the beginning we identified a lot of different areas – some were 
things that didn't fit within the web content accessibility guidelines 
framework as it stood. So were getting those over to the silver task 
force. Filling out anymore of the two point two techniques and writing 
those. We have a number that have been written already that are in 
there, but if there's any others that we think we should add to that we 
can be worki[CUT]
... we already talked about the mobile apps note
... this also the Internet of things – there's a working group, but we 
might want to think about that as well when we're looking at mobile apps 
as well as kiosks and how those are being used. There is kiosk 
accessibility guidelines but they're not published under the W3C so in 
looking at the kiosk and what is required there's definitely some key 
things and the Web content accessibility guidelines also apply to the 
kiosks so we mig[CUT]
... all of those are being used more and more today

Detlev: our task force or someone else

Jennifer: almost a silver thing

Kathy: the idea here was were looking at alternative interfaces and 
devices and so we can if we are finished all the rest of the stuff we 
can shift into looking at these other areas
... techniques, candidates and our primary focus will be on mobile apps

Detlev: I'm sure there's a lot of interest in that and a lot of 
contentious issues. You may have noticed there was quite some vitriolic 
arguments aboutwhether reflow should be considered for mobile apps and 
others saying you don't know what you're talking about. It's quite a 
loaded thing. I think we will have quite a lot to do and we would also 
need may be more technical advice at some points that I could give 
because I'm not a native [CUT]

add a few things, but I'm not as well acquainted from it.

Kathy: both Jennifer and Sakriti have app development, and I've also 
developed. I think where you come in, Detlev, is history. I think we 
have the right people. We also have others who can come in with 
examples. Jennifer, I think DQ has some if we need additional assistance
... Sukriti – you may know others as well. It's not just relying on this 
group but also going into to others

Detlev: things like text spacing – what does that mean for mobile. 
Assess ability guidelines or every app would have to have a menu that 
would allow you to increase text spacing. I think those are the kinds of 
things you have to answer and that follow-up document.

Kathy: where we have resources – please add them

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cSlYZQUG5Erj2lG1Xx871TGUGhVR2_qKiPR98iAwnJs/edit#

Detlev: might just be a PDF version

<Detlev> 
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/01.01.02_60/en_301549v010102p.pdf

Feel free to add resources to the resource section of the document

<Detlev> 
https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/02.01.02_60/en_301549v020102p.pdf

Kathy: the existing guidelines are going to be important for us to 
harmonize with

Detlev: draft is from May 2019

Kim: logistics reminder – click what looks like a page of the top left 
and you get an outline

Kathy: we put in some resources, feel free to add more, also feel free 
to add questions we need to answer in that document
... Jennifer – can you find the document Glenda Sims together – 
spreadsheet about how WCAG relates to mobile

apps

<Detlev> 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2014Apr/att-0008/BBCMobileGuide10_comparison_with_WCAG2UAAG2-rev2.html

Kathy: found the link and added – WCAG SCs that relate to mobile apps

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q9md2AvmeTgvsT9GB62BsGvCaalDGtE6?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HfJy7dyMrDAXTrmOg5-9cRIkOJOsjk__5vePQz4ZKBY/edit#gid=1733107226

Kathy: this will be the start of our information gathering and this, and 
we can work on this for the next couple weeks

Kim: so that document and also feel free to add resources to the mobile 
app note document

We'll be off the next two weeks, back on September 10


    Summary of Action Items


    Summary of Resolutions

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