- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 12:12:03 -0400
- To: Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@raisingthefloor.org>
- CC: Chris McMeeking <chris.mcmeeking@deque.com>, "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, "public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>
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We've revised the proposed 2.5.3 Touch Up Activation. https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Proposed_revision_of_2.5.3#Proposed_2.5.3 On the call we felt it was ready to bring to the larger WCAG group for further consideration on April 26 On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:48 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > +1 > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Gregg Vanderheiden < > gregg@raisingthefloor.org> wrote: > >> The WCAG used the following formulation (if this is helpful to you ) >> >> The SC needs to be met by the web page with the assumption that the user >> is using commonly available AT and access features commonly available in >> browsers. >> >> The "programmatically determined” phrase is key to the AT support. >> Anything where the SC addressed a problem through AT - the term >> programmatically determined was use to cover both AT and access features in >> browsers. >> >> >> >> *gregg* >> >> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Chris McMeeking <chris.mcmeeking@deque.com> >> wrote: >> >> You're correct, it is very relevant. However, not when considering >> whether a success criteria is a criteria or not. But, whether or not such >> a criteria is enforced on a given platform in a given situation, etc. If >> you want to go out there and test every criteria against all combinations >> of browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Internet Explorer (6, 7, 8, 9)) >> against all possible ATs (Jaws, NVDA, VoiceOver, ChromeVox, TalkBack, >> VoiceOver (iOS)) you are never going to have 100% compliance. Are you >> suggesting we scrap all of WCag because nobody can possible conform? >> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 01/04/2016 16:03, Chris McMeeking wrote: >>> >>>> The user agent vs AT vs webpage/app as the "responsible party" for a >>>> conformance to a criteria I find irrelevant as it pertains to the >>>> formation of a criteria. Saying that the user agent "should be >>>> responsible" is all fine. That doesn't mean that it's not part of the >>>> criteria. >>>> >>> >>> But as the criteria are part of the Web Content guidelines, meaning that >>> they're the responsibility of the web content developer to ensure, it IS >>> relevant - if these are things that are simply out of the developer's >>> control, or issues relating to global settings (which I don't believe can >>> be successfully mandated for each and every site/app, or they'll simply be >>> ignored), developers will not be able to satisfy the SC. Then what? >>> >>> >>> P >>> -- >>> Patrick H. Lauke >>> >>> www.splintered.co.uk | https://github.com/patrickhlauke >>> http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ | http://redux.deviantart.com >>> twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke >>> >>> >> >> >
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