- From: Raphaël Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:00:56 +0100
- To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Dear all,
The minutes of today's phone telecon are available for review at
http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text format
below).
The short executive summary is:
- Raphael to review Philip's patch and include them in the main spec
in order to close ISSUE-19
- Silvia to mail the group regarding which more HTML5 bugs she would
like to open given Ian closed bug 10723
- Davy to add the RTSP processing as an appending in the main document
Best regards,
Raphaël
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
12 Jan 2011
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Jan/0004.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-irc
Attendees
Present
Raphael, Thomas, Davy, Yves
Regrets
Erik
Chair
Raphael
Scribe
raphael
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]1. ADMIN
2. [6]2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION
3. [7]3. HTML5 BUG:
4. [8]4. RTSP processing
5. [9]5. Use Cases
6. [10]6. Test Cases
7. [11]7. AOB
* [12]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<trackbot> Date: 12 January 2011
1. ADMIN
Yves: management team discussing this afternoon about charter
renewing
... I think it makes sense to have another LC step, but very short,
2 weeks
... given the substantial changes made
... and so we give time to get more comments
Raphael: will this enable to have the RTSP part in the document?
Yves: the problem will be to get implementations
Davy: we have a server side implementation of RTSP
Yves: I think that separate note for RTSP would be better
Raphael: poll is controversial on this aspect
... results are:
[13]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results
[13] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results
Propose to accept the minutes of the last week telecon:
[14]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html
[14] http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html
<davy> +1
+1
<Yves> +1
<davy> +1
<tomayac> +1
minutes accepted
2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION
ACTION-199?
<trackbot> ACTION-199 -- Raphaël Troncy to add a clarification text
regarding the purpose of the grammar -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199
[15] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199
close ACTION-199
<trackbot> ACTION-199 Add a clarification text regarding the purpose
of the grammar closed
ACTION-200?
<trackbot> ACTION-200 -- Raphaël Troncy to send a proposal to close
ISSUE-19 that consists in: clarification text + normative parsing
algorithm -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200
[16] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200
close ACTION-200
<trackbot> ACTION-200 Send a proposal to close ISSUE-19 that
consists in: clarification text + normative parsing algorithm closed
ISSUE-19?
<trackbot> ISSUE-19 -- Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF
spec itself -- open
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19
[17] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19
Raphael: we cannot close this issue yet
... Philip sent patches that I have to review
... and include them in the document
ACTION-196?
<trackbot> ACTION-196 -- Raphaël Troncy to address comments from the
Media Annotations WG and draft a reply -- due 2010-11-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/196
[18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/196
3. HTML5 BUG:
ACTION-205?
<trackbot> ACTION-205 -- Silvia Pfeiffer to send the MF
clarification text to the HTML mailinglist -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/205
[19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/205
close ACTION-205
<trackbot> ACTION-205 Send the MF clarification text to the HTML
mailinglist closed
ACTION-206?
<trackbot> ACTION-206 -- Raphaël Troncy to reopen the MF bug in the
HTML5 bug tracker -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/206
[20] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/206
close ACTION-206
<trackbot> ACTION-206 Reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker
closed
Raphael: Ian has closed the bug again
... he complains because we have 2 issues in one bug
... first issue, he replied
"For comment 10 issue 1: the spec already says as much as it needs
to say on the
subject: "If either the media resource or the address of the current
media
resource indicate a particular start time, then set the initial
playback
position to that time and then seek seek to that time." (in the
resource fetch
algorithm)
scribe: second issue, he replied
"For comment 10 issue 2: that's a browser UI issue and out of scope
of specs
such as HTML.
See also [21]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723
[21] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723
Yves: I agree with Ian for comment on issue 1
... I suggest to defer to Silvia for comment on issue 2
Thomas: I think Ian is correct for issue 2
Raphael: Silvia indicates we should open more bugs and would like to
discuss them
... I suggest that Silvia mails the group which bugs she would like
we open
4. RTSP processing
ISSUE-18?
<trackbot> ISSUE-18 -- RTSP processing of Media Fragments URI --
open
<trackbot>
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18
[22] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18
ACTION-207?
<trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Raphaël Troncy to setup a poll regarding
the fact that RTSP will be discussed in a separate note -- due
2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/207
[23] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/207
close ACTION-207
<trackbot> ACTION-207 Setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP will
be discussed in a separate note closed
Results of the poll:
[24]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results
[24] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results
scribe: 4 are for a separate note and 3 for inclusion in the main
spec
Yves, Thomas and Erik haven't replied yet
Yves: I abstain
Thomas: I don't have an opinion on this (lack of knowledge of RTSP),
so I abstain as well
Raphael: from the comments, the main fear is to delay the process
... but it seems we will have another LC anyway
... so I will rephrase the question: who is really *against* having
this part in the main spec?
Yves: my main concern is the delay to get the implementations of
this part
... but this is not a main concern
<scribe> ACTION: Davy to add the RTSP processing section as an
appending to the main document [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-210 - Add the RTSP processing section as
an appending to the main document [on Davy Van Deursen - due
2011-01-19].
Raphael: content to add is at
[26]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UA_Server_RTSP_Co
mmunication
... I will ask ALL to commit to a date where we are all here for
inviting Addison to a telecon
[26]
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UA_Server_RTSP_Communication
5. Use Cases
Raphael: NEC is a new member in the group
... one representant suggest a new use case, see
[27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Ja
n/0005.html
[27]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Jan/0005.html
Silvia: good use case but no more requirements that what we have
Davy: perhaps he wants to have 2 regions in one URI ?
... perhaps he wants moving regions too
Raphael: perhaps we could adapt our text in the UC document with
this new input
6. Test Cases
ACTIOn-209?
<trackbot> ACTION-209 -- Davy Van Deursen to convert TCs from the
wiki to an RDF version -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/209
[28] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/209
Davy: I'm working on it, hope to finish it by next week
... I'm also working on an HTML visualization so we don't have to
look at the RDF
<tomayac> (did everybody leave the call?)
Davy: we will need an entire telecon about test cases to re-review
them later on
... include-setup has been added in the meantime
7. AOB
[silence]
meeting adjourned
<tomayac> same here
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Davy to add the RTSP processing section as an
appending to the main document [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
_________________________________________________________
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Raphaël Troncy
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