- From: Raphaël Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:00:56 +0100
- To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Dear all, The minutes of today's phone telecon are available for review at http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text format below). The short executive summary is: - Raphael to review Philip's patch and include them in the main spec in order to close ISSUE-19 - Silvia to mail the group regarding which more HTML5 bugs she would like to open given Ian closed bug 10723 - Davy to add the RTSP processing as an appending in the main document Best regards, Raphaël --------------- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference 12 Jan 2011 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Jan/0004.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-irc Attendees Present Raphael, Thomas, Davy, Yves Regrets Erik Chair Raphael Scribe raphael Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]1. ADMIN 2. [6]2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION 3. [7]3. HTML5 BUG: 4. [8]4. RTSP processing 5. [9]5. Use Cases 6. [10]6. Test Cases 7. [11]7. AOB * [12]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 12 January 2011 1. ADMIN Yves: management team discussing this afternoon about charter renewing ... I think it makes sense to have another LC step, but very short, 2 weeks ... given the substantial changes made ... and so we give time to get more comments Raphael: will this enable to have the RTSP part in the document? Yves: the problem will be to get implementations Davy: we have a server side implementation of RTSP Yves: I think that separate note for RTSP would be better Raphael: poll is controversial on this aspect ... results are: [13]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results [13] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results Propose to accept the minutes of the last week telecon: [14]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html [14] http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html <davy> +1 +1 <Yves> +1 <davy> +1 <tomayac> +1 minutes accepted 2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION ACTION-199? <trackbot> ACTION-199 -- Raphaël Troncy to add a clarification text regarding the purpose of the grammar -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199 [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199 close ACTION-199 <trackbot> ACTION-199 Add a clarification text regarding the purpose of the grammar closed ACTION-200? <trackbot> ACTION-200 -- Raphaël Troncy to send a proposal to close ISSUE-19 that consists in: clarification text + normative parsing algorithm -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN <trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200 [16] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200 close ACTION-200 <trackbot> ACTION-200 Send a proposal to close ISSUE-19 that consists in: clarification text + normative parsing algorithm closed ISSUE-19? <trackbot> ISSUE-19 -- Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself -- open <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19 [17] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19 Raphael: we cannot close this issue yet ... Philip sent patches that I have to review ... and include them in the document ACTION-196? <trackbot> ACTION-196 -- Raphaël Troncy to address comments from the Media Annotations WG and draft a reply -- due 2010-11-09 -- OPEN <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/196 [18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/196 3. HTML5 BUG: ACTION-205? <trackbot> ACTION-205 -- Silvia Pfeiffer to send the MF clarification text to the HTML mailinglist -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/205 [19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/205 close ACTION-205 <trackbot> ACTION-205 Send the MF clarification text to the HTML mailinglist closed ACTION-206? <trackbot> ACTION-206 -- Raphaël Troncy to reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/206 [20] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/206 close ACTION-206 <trackbot> ACTION-206 Reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker closed Raphael: Ian has closed the bug again ... he complains because we have 2 issues in one bug ... first issue, he replied "For comment 10 issue 1: the spec already says as much as it needs to say on the subject: "If either the media resource or the address of the current media resource indicate a particular start time, then set the initial playback position to that time and then seek seek to that time." (in the resource fetch algorithm) scribe: second issue, he replied "For comment 10 issue 2: that's a browser UI issue and out of scope of specs such as HTML. See also [21]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723 [21] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723 Yves: I agree with Ian for comment on issue 1 ... I suggest to defer to Silvia for comment on issue 2 Thomas: I think Ian is correct for issue 2 Raphael: Silvia indicates we should open more bugs and would like to discuss them ... I suggest that Silvia mails the group which bugs she would like we open 4. RTSP processing ISSUE-18? <trackbot> ISSUE-18 -- RTSP processing of Media Fragments URI -- open <trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18 [22] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18 ACTION-207? <trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Raphaël Troncy to setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP will be discussed in a separate note -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/207 [23] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/207 close ACTION-207 <trackbot> ACTION-207 Setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP will be discussed in a separate note closed Results of the poll: [24]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results [24] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results scribe: 4 are for a separate note and 3 for inclusion in the main spec Yves, Thomas and Erik haven't replied yet Yves: I abstain Thomas: I don't have an opinion on this (lack of knowledge of RTSP), so I abstain as well Raphael: from the comments, the main fear is to delay the process ... but it seems we will have another LC anyway ... so I will rephrase the question: who is really *against* having this part in the main spec? Yves: my main concern is the delay to get the implementations of this part ... but this is not a main concern <scribe> ACTION: Davy to add the RTSP processing section as an appending to the main document [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-210 - Add the RTSP processing section as an appending to the main document [on Davy Van Deursen - due 2011-01-19]. Raphael: content to add is at [26]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UA_Server_RTSP_Co mmunication ... I will ask ALL to commit to a date where we are all here for inviting Addison to a telecon [26] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UA_Server_RTSP_Communication 5. Use Cases Raphael: NEC is a new member in the group ... one representant suggest a new use case, see [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Ja n/0005.html [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Jan/0005.html Silvia: good use case but no more requirements that what we have Davy: perhaps he wants to have 2 regions in one URI ? ... perhaps he wants moving regions too Raphael: perhaps we could adapt our text in the UC document with this new input 6. Test Cases ACTIOn-209? <trackbot> ACTION-209 -- Davy Van Deursen to convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/209 [28] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/209 Davy: I'm working on it, hope to finish it by next week ... I'm also working on an HTML visualization so we don't have to look at the RDF <tomayac> (did everybody leave the call?) Davy: we will need an entire telecon about test cases to re-review them later on ... include-setup has been added in the meantime 7. AOB [silence] meeting adjourned <tomayac> same here Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Davy to add the RTSP processing section as an appending to the main document [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ -- Raphaël Troncy EURECOM, Multimedia Communications Department 2229, route des Crêtes, 06560 Sophia Antipolis, France. e-mail: raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr & raphael.troncy@gmail.com Tel: +33 (0)4 - 9300 8242 Fax: +33 (0)4 - 9000 8200 Web: http://www.eurecom.fr/~troncy/
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