- From: Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
- Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:08:54 +0200
- To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
All,
The minutes of our today's telecon are available now for review at
http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text format
below). Thanks Michael for the scribing.
I have updated http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/ScribeList
Raphaël
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
08 Oct 2008
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Oct/0040.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-irc
Attendees
Present
Erik, Raphael, Yves, Thierry, Davy, Silvia, Michael
Regrets
Jack
Chair
Erik
Scribe
Michael
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]1. ADMIN
2. [6]2. ISSUES
3. [7]3. USE CASES
4. [8]4. STATE OF THE ART
5. [9]5. AOB
* [10]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 08 October 2008
<raphael> Scribe: Michael
1. ADMIN
Erik: Accept minutes?
<raphael> +1 for accepting the minutes
Yves will take care of the Wiki issue right after call
<raphael> RESOLVED: minutes from 2008/10/01 telecon accepted
2. ISSUES
-> [11]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Issues Issues
[11] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Issues
Raphael: I've structured the issue on the Wiki, most seem to concern
all UC
... temporal seem ok spatial is still open
Silvia: temporally connected fragments?
Raphael: Video UC
Silvia: multiple URIs is hard to deal with, though I see it is
needed
Raphael: Thinking back of the interview, edited in two parts
<raphael> Silvia points out the complexity of multi-fragment URIs
<raphael> Given what Silvia suggests, I think this issue is related
to the playlist UC
<nessy> xspf = playlist format
<raphael> The question boils to: can a multi-fragment URI be
implemented as a playlist? is it the same thing?
Silvia: follow up on F2F
Erik: spatial fragment shape?
Raphael: Might be a matter of complexity, maybe in the second phase
of the WG?
<raphael> Silvia suggests to look at the image maps specification
Raphael: will look into it
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to look into image maps spec re spatial
fragment shape [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Raphael
Erik: containers and substreams
Silvia: From HTTP POV we're looking at resources
... in the media POV a container
... however re RTSP the format the container
... should focus on HTTP
Raphael: Wouldn't is make sense to list all container formats we
want to deal with?
Davy: ack to support container formats
<raphael> Is the Matroska (mkv) format relevant for example?
<Yves> documenting what we investigated is good for other people to
find out where we are coming from once we have a solution
<raphael> +1 for documentation
+1
sorry, for whom?
<scribe> ACTION: Davy and Erik to document container formats
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-3 - And Erik to document container formats
[on Davy Van Deursen - due 2008-10-15].
Erik: In-context / Out-of-context
<raphael> The wiki section is badly phrased, should be rephrased
<Yves> the difference between a fragment and a complete resource
(which can be a part of something bigger), depends mostly on the way
we identify the fragment
Erik: Representation and Implementation Issues
... URI Fragment / URI Query
<raphael> thanks Silvia, most appreaciated you took this action
<Yves> I would note that ';' is another separator that ca be useful
here
<scribe> ACTION: Silvia to flesh out how far can we go with a hash
URI regarding the interaction between the UA and the server
[recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Flesh out how far can we go with a
hash URI regarding the interaction between the UA and the server [on
Silvia Pfeiffer - due 2008-10-15].
Erik: Fragment Name and Description
Raphael and Silvia agree on non-semantics of the labels
Erik: Status of a Media Fragment
<raphael> Problem with ? is that the query is a new resource, or at
least no formal connexion between the fragment and the parent
resource
<raphael> Yves, can you put on IRC the link of the draft you're
talking about?
<Yves>
[15]http://www.mnot.net/drafts/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-01.
txt
[15]
http://www.mnot.net/drafts/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-01.txt
<nessy> [16]http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt
[16] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt
<raphael> Yves, would you like to take an action for checking the
status of ';' in a URI?
<Yves> sure
<raphael> Silvia: ByteRanges has advantages (cachable, proxies,
etc.) and I'm all for the '#' but 8 years ago, I found the limit of
the hash URI
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to check the status of ';' in a URI [recorded
in [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-5 - Check the status of ';' in a URI [on
Yves Lafon - due 2008-10-15].
Erik: Protocols
<raphael> Yves notes that defining a range unit as as easy as
defining a new header
<raphael> +1 for learning how RTSP fragments work
Sivia: my in-line action here is well covered
Erik: Server, Caches and Proxies
Silvia: would be nice to find a generic way
... however, seems not too realistic
<raphael> Silvia: would propose to cover HTTP (+ HTTPs, FTP)
3. USE CASES
Erik: going through UCs
Raphael: working on the Map and Multi Resolution UC
... zoomify providing input
4. STATE OF THE ART
->
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/State_of_the_Art
[18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/State_of_the_Art
5. AOB
Erik: put logistics and agenda for second F2F in Gent are online
<raphael> Logisitics page:
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/GhentLogistic
[19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/GhentLogistic
<raphael> IMPORTANT: book your hotel before Nov 8th for getting the
discount !!!
<nessy> +q
Silvia: file upload enabled?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Davy and Erik to document container formats [recorded
in [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to look into image maps spec re spatial
fragment shape [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Silvia to flesh out how far can we go with a hash URI
regarding the interaction between the UA and the server [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to check the status of ';' in a URI [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/10/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04]
[End of minutes]
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