- From: Rob Manson <roBman@buildAR.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:42:14 +1000
- To: public-media-capture@w3.org
Hi CTai, sorry I forgot to include the link 8/ Here it is - just a basic stub with a few key references at the moment. https://www.w3.org/wiki/Media_Capture_Stream_Post_Processing All contributions definitely welcome! roBman On 21/04/15 5:50 PM, Chia-Hung Tai wrote: > Hi, Rob, > Thanks for your feedback! Could you please point me where the Use > Cases page on the W3C wiki you have setup? I would love to contribute > to the development of such W3C API/spec. > One of the reason we drop the WebAudio-like design is we want to > embrace the extensibleweb style. So we could leverage the power of > emscripten and focus on the HW accelerated features in WebImage which > would be the next milestone for Project FoxEye in later phase. About > WebImage, we might take OpenVX as a good start point. After we have > more investigations, we might be able to decide what should be > standardised for WebImage. > > Glad to hear more comments and feedback. Please feel free to contact > me if you have any question. > > CTai > > 2015-04-20 9:56 GMT+08:00 Rob Manson <roBman@buildar.com > <mailto:roBman@buildar.com>>: > > Hi CTai, > > FoxEye looks like an awesome project and provides a excellent > proof of concept for general Computer Vision on the Web Platform! > > It would be great if you could contribute to the Use Cases page on > the W3C wiki I've setup and I've included a reference to FoxEye as > an early/leading implementation in this area. I'm assuming that > because you responded to this list that you're interested in your > project contributing to or providing the groundwork for the > development of a W3C API/spec? > > You say in your project's conclusion: > > " This project is not a JavaScript API version for OpenCV. It is > a way to let web developer do image processing and computer vision > works easier." > > It would be great to find a middle ground here for a open web API > - so we don't start in a completely app/domain specific way > (extensibleweb style). Then people could quickly and easily > prototype specific apps on top of this while we explore what > should be standardised. > > Love to hear your thoughts? > > roBman > > > > > On 17/04/15 5:57 PM, Chia-Hung Tai wrote: > > Hi, there, > My colleague and I recently are working a project called > FoxEye [1]. You can see the detail in the link [1] and [2] for > more details. Since we still actively working on the prototype > and implementation for this project, we might modify the > content frequently. > If you are interested in the progress in Firefox part, feel > free to follow the bug[3] in bugzilla. > Basically, the FoxEye project consists below blocks. > 1. VideoWorker which associate with MediaStreamTrack[4], it is > an extension for Media Capture and Stream. > 2. ImageBitamp and an extension for mapping image data into an > ArrayBuffer[5] > 3. WebImage: a Web API for HW accerlated features > 4. OpenCV.js: an asm.js version of OpenCV > > So, how the FoxEye works? > Take two basic cases as example: > 1. Input as media stream: > The developer can write a VideoWorker and hook it into an > MediaStreamTrack(MST). The VideoWorker will receive the events > for every frame from that MST. If the developer want to > "process" the frame and show the frame by frame result, then > he/she should take the worker as processor. Else-wise, he can > just take the worker as a monitor to analysis frame by frame > image data. The event take ImageBitmap as the input/output > handle. Which leave some optimism space for the case of WebGL. > > 2. Input as an image: > The developer can use ImageBitmap to map the raw buffer into > an ArrayBuffer. Then he/she can manipulate the pixels in > JavaScript. Also the developer can pass the ImageBitmap to > OpenCV.js, too. This empowers a lot of potentials to the Web. > > Current status: > We are working are below tasks to evaluate the proposal. > 1. Implement VideoWorker > 2. Implement ImageBitmap and extension > 3. Create JavaScript API for OpenCV.js > > Next phase: > 1. WebGL integration > 2. WebImage invistagation > 3. OpenCV.js optimization > > Right now we are still in preliminary stage. Would like to > hear any suggestions and comments from you. Feel free to > contact me if you have any questions. > > [1]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Project_FoxEye > [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgQWEWiGaO8 > [3]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100203 > [4]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug..cgi?id=1108950 > <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1108950> > [5]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1141979 > [6]: https://github.com/CJKu/opencv > > Best Regards, > CTai > > 2015-04-16 17:48 GMT+08:00 Harald Alvestrand > <harald@alvestrand.no <mailto:harald@alvestrand.no> > <mailto:harald@alvestrand.no <mailto:harald@alvestrand.no>>>: > > > On 04/16/2015 01:08 AM, Rob Manson wrote: > > There's definitely common and useful functions that > could be > optimised for video post processing. > > I don't think we need to boil the ocean and birth the full > equivalent of Web Audio 8) > > Yet some well chosen extensions could deliver a lot of > benefits with minimal effort. > > And it does seem to fit well with the WG's scope. > > - API functions for encoding and other [processing] of > those > media streams > - API functions for decoding and [processing] (...) of > those > streams at the incoming end > > > Not saying that we have the perfect solution, but we do > have a set > of solutions already specified..... > > The encoding is already spec'ed out in the recording API. > Decoding an encoded stream can be done by the Media Source API > (our test implementation of recording verified correctness by > feeding the resulting chunks to the Media Source API). > > Getting from decoding back to a MediaStream can be done by > using > the "Media Capture from DOM elements" specification. > > So I'd say that we have all the pieces to make a loop, and > would > encourage anyone who finds a place where the loop is broken to > file a bug on the relevant spec. > > > I'd like to put together a Use Cases document and would > welcome any input from other people interested. > > > I'd be happy to see such a document pulled together. > Note that we have a (rather old) "MediaStream Capture > Scenarios" > document here: > > http://w3c.github.io/mediacapture-scenarios/scenarios.html > > This can be taken as input, background or however you want to > treat it. > > > > roBman > > >
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