- From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:33:05 +0100
- To: "Evain, Jean-Pierre" <evain@ebu.ch>
- CC: "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>, 'Joakim Söderberg' <joakim.soderberg@ericsson.com>, 'Pierre-Antoine Champin' <pierre-antoine.champin@liris.cnrs.fr>, "tobias@tobiasbuerger.com" <tobias@tobiasbuerger.com>
Jean Pierre, Hearing no objections to your proposal I have published the errata at its final destination https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html and published the two files http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl Thierry On 26/03/2013 20:56, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote: > Hello Thierry, > > Great and thank-you. > > Best regards, > > Jean-pierre > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org] > Sent: mardi, 26. mars 2013 20:41 > To: Evain, Jean-Pierre > Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; 'Joakim Söderberg'; 'Pierre-Antoine Champin'; tobias@tobiasbuerger.com > Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA > > Jean Pierre, > > See my comments in line. > > On 23/03/2013 16:01, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote: >> Hello Thierry, >> >> I see the logic behind updating E01 and E02. No problem. >> >> My additional comments: >> >> - In E01, please update the description with the updated text from PA >> Description: In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property ma:collectionName is related to rdfs:label by rdfs:subClassOf relations, which is inconsistent with it being a property. This declaration has been removed for consistency and compatibility reasons. > > Done >> - In E02, the highlighted owl:Thing is not needed I believe. It is the only occurrence in the file. None other dataProperty inherit from owl:Thing. > removed owl:Thing >> >> IMPORTANT NOTE: Pierre-Antoine - can you see a reason why this happened only on collectionName when converting to TTL? Are we missing something somewhere that causes this to be generated when converting the rdf file to ttl? > > I hope Pierre-Antoine agrees to it ;-) > >> - In E02, please update the description with the updated text from PA >> Description: In the TTL representation of the Media Ontology, the property ma:collectionName is related to rdfs:label by rdfs:subClassOf relations, which is inconsistent with it being a property. This declaration has been removed for consistency and compatibility reasons. > > Done > >> - E06 is fine >> >> - E07 is fine >> >> Pierre-Antoine also sent an additional correction - IsRatingOf is >> capitalised in the specification when it shouldn't as well in the rdf >> and TTL files >> >> - NEW EOXXX: Correction in the RDF/XML of the case in property name >> isRatingOf >> >> Description: >> >> In the RDF/OWL property name isRatingOf is mispelled IsRatingOf (uppercase "i"). >> >> Resolution: >> >> IsRatingOf >> >> Changed to : >> >> isRatingOf >> >> The updated derived RDF/XML representation is available at >> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf > > > New Errata added > >> >> - NEW EOXXX: Correction in the TTL of the case in property name >> isRatingOf >> >> Description: >> >> In the TTL property name isRatingOf is mispelled IsRatingOf (uppercase "i"). >> >> Resolution: >> >> IsRatingOf >> >> Changed to : >> >> isRatingOf >> >> The updated derived RDF/XML representation is available at >> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl > > New Errata added > >> >> >> >> And of course the files must be updated with the attached files (removed owl:Thing) unless PA screams :--) as he generated the TTL. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Jean-pierre >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org] >> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 18:06 >> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre >> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; 'Joakim Söderberg'; >> 'Pierre-Antoine Champin'; tobias@tobiasbuerger.com >> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF - PROPOSED TEXT FOR ERRATA >> >> Jean Pierre, >> >> I had to deal with the errata a bit differently ... >> >> I have modified the former errata E01 and E02 I have added the errata >> E0- and E07 >> >> >> Therefore, I have changed your email errata proposal for E01 and E02 to start the correction from the version *from the spec* (not from the former errata page) to your latest proposal. >> >> Therefore I have published a temporary errata page at >> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html >> >> details of my updates in line, following. >> >> >> If you are OK with these errata proposal, I will update the errata page next week (with the temporary one) >> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html >> >> and will publish the two new files at >> >> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf >> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl >> >> Thierry >> >> >> >> On 22/03/2013 09:47, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Please find attached the new errata items addressing the changes made >>> to the rdf/owl and derived ttl files >>> >>> Please let me know if I missed something. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Jean-Pierre >>> >>> @@@@@@@@@@@ >>> >>> NEW ERRATA ITEMS >>> >>> 1/ E0XXX: Correction in the RDF/OWL representation of the Media >>> Ontology in section 7.3 >>> >>> Description: >>> >>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property >>> ma:collectionName is declared to be a subproperty of rdfs:label. This declaration is being removed to avoid problems of incompatibilities. >>> >>> Resolution: >>> >>> <owl:DatatypeProperty rdf:ID="collectionName"> <rdfs:domain >>> rdf:resource="#Collection"/> <rdfs:comment>The name by which a >>> collection (e.g. series) is known.</rdfs:comment> <rdfs:subPropertyOf >>> rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label"/> >>> </owl:DatatypeProperty> >>> >>> Changed to : >>> >>> <owl:DatatypeProperty rdf:ID="collectionName"> <rdfs:domain >>> rdf:resource="#Collection"/> <rdfs:comment>The name by which a >>> collection (e.g. series) is known.</rdfs:comment> >>> </owl:DatatypeProperty> >>> >>> The updated RDF/OWL representation is available at >>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf >> >> So my understanding is that we had introduced a wrong line: >> <rdfs:subPropertyOf >> rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label"/> >> >> I have changed your errata proposal to start the correction from the version from the spec to your latest version. >> >> see spec version >> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-owl >> >> >> see new errata >> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E01 >> >> >> Let me know if this is good. >> >> >> >>> >>> 2/ E0XXX: Correction in the TTL representation of the Media Ontology >>> in section 8 >>> >>> Description: >>> >>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the property >>> ma:collectionName is declared to be a subproperty of rdfs:label. This declaration is being removed to avoid problems of incompatibilities. >>> >>> Resolution: >>> >>> :collectionName a owl:DatatypeProperty; rdfs:comment "The name by >>> which a collection (e.g. series) is known."; rdfs:domain :Collection; >>> rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label . >>> >>> Changed to : >>> >>> :collectionName a owl:DatatypeProperty, owl:Thing; rdfs:comment "The >>> name by which a collection (e.g. series) is known."; rdfs:domain >>> :Collection . >>> >>> The updated derived TTL representation is available at >>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl >> >> >> So my understanding is that we had introduced a wrong line in the >> former >> errata: >> rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label >> >> see former errata >> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html#E02 >> >> >> I have changed your errata proposal to start the correction from the version from the spec to your latest version. >> >> >> see spec version >> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-ttl >> >> >> see new errata >> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E02 >> >> >> Let me know if this is good. >> >> >> >>> >>> 3/ EOXXX: Correction in the RDF/OWL representation of the Media >>> Ontology in section 7.3 >>> >>> Description: >>> >>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the import reference to Dublin Core is broken. >>> >>> Resolution: >>> >>> <owl:imports rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"/> >>> >>> Changed to : >>> >>> <owl:imports >>> rdf:resource="http://dublincore.org/2008/01/14/dcelements.rdf"/> >>> >>> The updated RDF/OWL representation is available at >>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf >> >> >> I have added this new errata. >> see new errata >> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E06 >> >> >>> >>> 4/ EOXXX: Correction in the TTL representation of the Media Ontology >>> in section 8 >>> >>> Description: >>> >>> In the RDF/OWL representation of the Media Ontology, the import reference to Dublin Core is broken. >>> >>> Resolution: >>> >>> owl:imports dc:; >>> >>> Changed to : >>> >>> owl:imports <http://dublincore.org/2008/01/14/dcelements.rdf>; >>> >>> The updated derived TTL representation is available at >>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl >> >> >> I have added this new errata. >> see new errata >> https://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata-temp1.html#E07 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Evain, Jean-Pierre [mailto:evain@ebu.ch] >>> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 09:02 >>> To: 'Thierry MICHEL' >>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org >>> Subject: RE: MAWG - update RDF >>> >>> One new errata will actually concern EO1 and will removed the >>> subproperty declaration to rdfs:label in bothe the rdf and the >>> derived ttl >>> >>> Another new errata will be the correction of the import reference to dc.rdf. >>> >>> Jean-Pierre >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org] >>> Sent: vendredi, 22. mars 2013 08:30 >>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre >>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org >>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF >>> >>> And one more thing, >>> >>> The already existing errata at >>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html >>> >>> are also in the new files ? >>> (I havn't check). >>> >>> Thierry >>> >>> On 22/03/2013 07:30, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote: >>>> Dear Michel, >>>> >>>> thanks for the instructions. We'll follow your recommendations. >>>> >>>> I hope the group will agree as the file is otherwsie not validating in particular because of a non persistent refernece from Dublin Core. But I would of course provide you with the detailed information needed for the errata. >>>> >>>> I guess we'll need to organise a MAWG call soon. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> jean-Pierre >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Thierry MICHEL [tmichel@w3.org] >>>> Sent: 21 March 2013 20:44 >>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre >>>> Cc: 'Joakim Soderberg'; public-media-annotation@w3.org >>>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF >>>> >>>> Jean Pierre, >>>> >>>> >>>> We have those two files included (nested) in the Ontology for Media >>>> Resources 1.0 Recommendation >>>> >>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-owl >>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mediaont-10/#ont-ttl >>>> >>>> and also published at >>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf >>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl >>>> >>>> >>>> If I update these two files there, then there will be a deferent >>>> version in the Recommendation. >>>> >>>> The only way to solve this is to update these two files at >>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl >>>> >>>> and publish an errata with these changes at >>>> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/mediaont-10-errata.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Therefore I need >>>> 1- to have the Group to approve these changes. >>>> 2- Know the exact changes to update the errata page. >>>> >>>> Is this OK ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thierry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21/03/2013 17:13, Evain, Jean-Pierre wrote: >>>>> Me too and I insist that these are corrections and not changes. >>>>> >>>>> Best, JP >>>>> >>>>> From: Joakim Soderberg [mailto:soderberg.pj@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: jeudi, 21. mars 2013 16:40 >>>>> To: Evain, Jean-Pierre >>>>> Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org >>>>> Subject: Re: MAWG - update RDF >>>>> >>>>> I hope it gets accepted. Thierry, will this have to be published as a separate version? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch<mailto:evain@ebu.ch>> wrote: >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> A group of MAWG members are making a submission to an RFT from ISO/JPEG proposing to adopt our ma-ont ontology. >>>>> >>>>> This submission contains links to the rdf and ttl files accessible from: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.rdf >>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont.ttl >>>>> >>>>> A couple of corrections have proved to be required with no impact on the ontology structure: >>>>> >>>>> 1/ surprisingly the reference to DublinCore in RDF (e.g. used for >>>>> comments) was broken and had to be replaced 2/ the collectionName property used to be declared as a subclass of rdfs:label but this generates problems. 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