- From: Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:42:18 +0200 (CEST)
- To: "Felix Sasaki" <felix.sasaki@dfki.de>
- Cc: (wrong string) öffernig@w3.org, "Martin" <martin.hoeffernig@joanneum.at>, "tmichel@w3.org" <tmichel@w3.org>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Felix, It is the same issue for all; This was already discussed with Werner. you should use multiple time the same labels or avoid bags in your example. Thierry > Dear Martin, all, > > in addition to your observations and suggestions - which all make sense -, > let me mention that there are other cases of multiple examples of the same > kind of information: > * ma:date: > ma:date "2009"^^xsd:gYear, > "2010-11-18T11:57:24+01:00"^^xsd:dateTime, > "2010-12"^^xsd:gYearMonth, > "2010-12-13T12:59:59.12345+02:00"^^xsd:string, > "2010-12-23T14:42:31"^^xsd:dateTime, > "2010-12-31"^^xsd:date, > "2010-12-31T11:59:00"^^xsd:dateTime, > "2010-12-31T11:59Z"^^xsd:string; > * ma:title: > ma:title "dc:title (de-DE)"^^xsd:string, > "dc:title (en-US)"^^xsd:string, > "dc:title (x-default)"^^xsd:string, > "xmpDM:album"^^xsd:string. > In XMP it is clear where the information is coming from, e.g. from dublin > core within XM Por the xmpDM namespace. The mawg values of course don't > express provenance. So an application does not know whether it should > choose > e.g. 2010-11-18T11:57:24+01:00 or 2009 is the date value. > > I don't know how to solve this problem but just wanted you to be aware of > it. Martin, all, please let me know how you want to proceed, for > ma:hasLanguage, ma:hasPolicy, ma:date, ma:creationDate and ma:title. > > Regards, > > Felix > > 2011/9/12 Höffernig, Martin <Martin.Hoeffernig@joanneum.at> > >> Dear Felix, Thierry, all >> >> I have finished the recheck of the latest XMP example. >> This example has passed the consistency check using Protege and Pellet. >> >> However, I have some remarks which should be discussed. >> >> The value of ma:hasLanguage is a rescource containing three different >> labels: >> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource"> >> <rdfs:label>en</rdfs:label> >> <rdfs:label>de-DE</rdfs:label> >> <rdfs:label>de-DE-bayrisch</rdfs:label> >> </ma:hasLanguage> >> >> Since no cardinality restrictions has been defined in the MA ontology, >> using multiple labels for the same resoure would be possible. >> However, the question is if the above usage of mulitpe labels is correct >> in >> the MA ontology context? >> >> I would suggest to avoid the mulitple labels for the same resource and >> describe multiple labels in the following way: >> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource"> >> <rdfs:label>en</rdfs:label> >> </ma:hasLanguage> >> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource"> >> <rdfs:label>de-DE</rdfs:label> >> </ma:hasLanguage> >> <ma:hasLanguage rdf:parseType="Resource"> >> <rdfs:label>de-DE-bayrisch</rdfs:label> >> </ma:hasLanguage> >> >> Another resource (value of ma:hasPolicy) contains multiple labels >> modelled >> in the same as above. >> >> Furthermore, the media resource contains two different creation dates. >> From my side of view there can be only one creation date. >> >> Best, >> Martin >> >> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> > Von: Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org] >> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 08. September 2011 20:03 >> > An: Felix Sasaki; Höffernig, Martin >> > Cc: public-media-annotation@w3.org; Frank Biederich >> > Betreff: Re: XSLT-Stylesheet for conversion XMP > MAWG >> > >> > >> > Felix, Martin, >> > >> > >> > I have added your 2 files (XML and RDF) into the testsuite. >> > (replace the former one. >> > Note that in the RDF I have added a comment as mentuionned in the >> > guidelines. >> > >> > I have also added your Stylesheet for conversion of XMP (canonical >> > form) >> > to instance of "Ontology for Media Resources 1.0" in the list of >> > Implementations/demonstrators >> > >> > see >> > >> > http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite >> > .html >> > >> > >> > The last bit is that I have removed the former TTL file for XMP. Maybe >> > you would like to provide a new one? >> > >> > Martin could you check the RDF file for XMP ? >> > >> > Thanks a lot for your input. >> > >> > Bets, >> > >> > thierry >> > >> > Le 08/09/2011 12:25, Felix Sasaki a écrit : >> > > Thierry, all, >> > > >> > > I have made a slight update of the XMP examples. Attached ZIP file >> > contains >> > > a new input file MAWG_test_canonical.xml, and an output >> > > file MAWG_test_canonical_mapped-to-rdf-by-xslt.xmp >> > > can you replace input and output in the CR table for the ontology >> > document >> > > accordingly? >> > > >> > > The ZIP file also contains an XSLT stylesheet that I used for the >> > generation >> > > of the output file. Input needs to be XMP *in canonical form* (a >> > certain >> > > kind of XMP serialization). From my understanding an XMP processor >> > needs to >> > > be capable to produce that form. See the stylesheet also at >> > > http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xml-canonical-to- >> > mawg.xsl >> > > Can you add the stylesheet (or maybe rather the link to it) to the >> > mapping >> > > tool list of implementations / demonstrators for the ontology? Many >> > thanks >> > > in advance. >> > > >> > > I have put Frank Biederich from Adobe into the loop so that he is >> > aware of >> > > this. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > >> > > Felix >> > > >> > > > > -- > Prof. Dr. Felix Sasaki > Senior Researcher, Language Technology Lab > DFKI GmbH, Alt-Moabit 91c, 10559 Berlin, Germany http://www.dfki.de > phone: +49-30-23895-1807 (fax: -1810) > ------------------------------------------------ > Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH > Firmensitz: Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster > (Vorsitzender), Dr. Walter Olthoff > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. 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