- From: Pierre-Antoine Champin <pchampin@liris.cnrs.fr>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:01:55 +0000
- To: public-media-annotation@w3.org
are available at http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html and below as text. Sorry for being late... Pierre-Antoine W3C - DRAFT - MAWG 20 Jan 2009 Agenda See also: IRC log Attendees Present joakim, pierre-antoine, victor, werner, wonsuk, veronique, raphael, Jean-Pierre Regrets Felix, Tobias, Frank, Thierry, Davy Chair Joakim Scribe Pierre_antoine Contents * Topics 1. Action items 2. data format * Summary of Action Items <victor> Hello <joakim> Hi Victor, all well? <victor> fine, thanks <joakim> who zakim, who is noisy can you hear me ? <joakim> scribe: Pierre_antoine <raphael> scribenick: pchampin <joakim> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jan/0024.html last minutes approved <joakim> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jan/0042.html Frank will scribe for the next meeting next call: January 27, 13:00 UTC unless it is unconvenient for the Apple people <joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open Action items Werner: must have more discussion with Frank next week action 47 still ongoing <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 47 <raphael> Jean Pierre: try the web access to irc <Zakim> raphael, you wanted to talk about the action from Felix <raphael> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/xmplibrary/ raphael: Felix and Raphael received mails from Adobe about a library giving a better idea of the XMP properties actually in use victor: worked on the Image UC the UC is about image lifecylce mailed a similar example involving video <joakim> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jan/0029.html <joakim> Pierre Antoine: we should take structured data into account there is a trade off between structured API and structured data <raphael> Pierre Antoine, you should be able to watch all actions and issues, open and close ... so ask Thierry to get your access granted, this is a setup problem close ACTION-59 <trackbot> ACTION-59 Investigate how the declaration of JSON could provide a solution for our return object closed <raphael> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/issues/open joachim: manually adds an Issue: "trade-off btw structured API and structured data" <raphael> the system should give a number to the issue this is issue 1 <raphael> and you can assign actions related to this issue ... close ACTION-65 <trackbot> ACTION-65 Finish TYoutube and Media RSS , TXfeed for next week closed close ACTION-67 <trackbot> ACTION-67 Review tvanytime closed close ACTION-68 <trackbot> ACTION-68 Review EBU closed close ACTION-69 <trackbot> ACTION-69 Review Cable Labs Video-On-Demand Content specification 2.0 closed close ACTION-70 <trackbot> ACTION-70 Review IPTC closed close ACTION-72 <trackbot> ACTION-72 Review MIX closed werner: 2 columns are missing in the mapping for SMPTE they will be completed next week close ACTION-75 <trackbot> ACTION-75 Review METS closed close ACTION-76 <trackbot> ACTION-76 Review LOM closed joakim: we can discuss on the mapping table véronique: a lot of formats have a mapping to XMP and a mapping to DC can we use the transitivity of the mappings ? victor: not only the transitivity, but also symetry ? <raphael> Does your mapping have a direction ? or are they equivalent relations in the mathematical sense? joakim: in ID3, a property maps to both XMP and DC, but not exactly in the same way DC is more general, XMP more specific werner: same observation: there is often an overlap <raphael> the mapping can be precised: sub-property, equivalent-property, related-property, etc. OWL and SKOS provide constructs to express that many properties are music-oriented; should we keep them?. véronique: the mapping of MPEG7 will probably provide properties related to video that we don't have yet: mapping problem <scribe> ACTION: joakim to merge the contributions to the mapping table on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Merge the contributions to the mapping table on the wiki [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-01-27]. <VeroniqueM> for VRA at least they provided a clear mapping to Dublin Core 4.0 <VeroniqueM> and to former versions, but i did not include them... pierre-antoine: is the mapping of DC vs. DCterms always consistent with the 2 versions (string / URI) provided by the Dublin Core? <scribe> ACTION: pchampin to start a discussion on the wiki about the DC vs. DCterms issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Start a discussion on the wiki about the DC vs. DCterms issue [on Pierre-Antoine Champin - due 2009-01-27]. <joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Dataformat data format <raphael> I think that URI as values is a must ... to be part of the Web of Data <raphael> ... this is coherent with the vision of a Web of things <VeroniqueM> I agree with Raphael <wbailer> +1 <joakim> +1 <victor> +1 <wonsuk> +1 <joakim> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jan/0032.html <VeroniqueM> one way of representing the mappings could be in a Semantic Web format, what are the other formats that people would want it into? <VeroniqueM> with skos:mappings for example véronique: SKOS is about specifying different kinds of mapping (exact mapping, more general, etc) <VeroniqueM> http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/ <victor> i absolutelty agree about SKOS <scribe> ACTION: VeroniqueM to write an example about using SKOS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - VeroniqueM <raphael> trackbot, status <scribe> ACTION: Véronique to write an example about using SKOS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html#action04] <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Write an example about using SKOS [on Véronique Malaisé - due 2009-01-27]. <VeroniqueM> there are two points: the API and the media ontology... pierre-antoine: do we expect people using our API to be able to deal with SKOS ? <VeroniqueM> they are related, of course, we agree with that <Zakim> raphael, you wanted to explain a bit more how SKOS can be useful raphael: SKOS is for representing lightweight taxonomies without strong semantic comitment joakim: should we include MicrosoftTV on iTunes ? (no opinion expressed) Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: joakim to merge the contributions to the mapping table on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: pchampin to start a discussion on the wiki about the DC vs. DCterms issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: VeroniqueM to write an example about using SKOS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: Véronique to write an example about using SKOS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html#action04] [End of minutes] Minutes formatted by David Booth's scribe.perl version 1.133 (CVS log) $Date: 2009/01/20 14:03:03 $ Scribe.perl diagnostic output [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.133 of Date: 2008/01/18 18:48:51 Check for newer version at http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) Succeeded: s/Bernard/Werner/ Found Scribe: Pierre_antoine Found ScribeNick: pchampin Default Present: pchampin, joakim, [IPcaller], +43.316.876.aaaa, veronique, +41.22.717.aabb, wbailer, raphael Present: joakim pierre-antoine victor werner wonsuk veronique raphael Jean-Pierre Regrets: Felix Tobias Frank Thierry Davy Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jan/0042.html Got date from IRC log name: 20 Jan 2009 Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-mediaann-minutes.html People with action items: joakim pchampin ronique v veroniquem WARNING: Input appears to use implicit continuation lines. 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