Minutes of the W3C Rights Automation Community Group 2020-10-28

Please find the minutes of today’s meeting at https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html and pasted below.
Summary of Action Items
ACTION: Ben to check whether he can open a Zoom account with automatic transcription
ACTION: Jo to check archive status of public but not indexed list (needs to be non-archived)
ACTION: MarkB to check that Atiq and Roy are aware of the request to present the PoC streams in 2 weeks time
ACTION: MarkB to send out credentials to PoC team leads
Summary of Resolutions

  1.  Accept minutes of last meeting<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#resolution01>
Many thanks
Jo


Market Data Automation Community Group Teleconference
28 Oct 2020

Agenda<https://github.com/w3c/market-data-odrl-profile/blob/gh-pages/agendas/md-odrl-profile-agenda-2020-10-28.md>

Attendees
Present
jo, adam, nigel, MarkB, Aaron, Ben, Caspar, Ilya, Laura, MarkD, Michelle, Mike, Samantha, Trisha, JohnIkel, paulK, jeremy, olga, josh
Regrets
Alex_C, Jane_F-B, Atiq_K, Chris_C, Phil
Chair
jo
Scribe
JoshuaCornejo
Contents

  *   Topics<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#agenda>
     *   Minutes of Last Meeting<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item01>
     *   Report from PoC Breakout<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item02>
     *   Test Cases<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item03>
     *   AOB<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item04>
     *   Back to Test Cases<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item05>
     *   More AOB<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item06>
  *   Summary of Action Items<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  *   Summary of Resolutions<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>

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<jo_> scribe: JoshuaCornejo

Minutes of Last Meeting

<jo_> last meeting https://www.w3.org/2020/10/14-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html


Mark: proof of concept breakout last Wednesday, work on-going

Jo: both those actions were completed

RESOLUTION: Accept minutes of last meeting

Report from PoC Breakout

Mark: had a good group for the breakout, the highest result is that there are 3 groups Ilya for PoC / Atiq for another and Roy Kaplan for another. Ilya, Atiq would aim at Dec, Roy expecting more time
... will try to measure my presentation
... each PoC lead is going to present to this group
... Ilya will be presenting today
... Atiq & Roy will present on the next session (11th)

Ilya: I didn't realise I was going to present, our PoC is an internal project for an Entitlements enforcement Engine for applications or other applications, if the use case is (or not) authorised. Dependent on on DAX(?) as the source of entitlements
... OpenDAX(?) is rather inflexible, trying to create an API within our client applications

<John_Ikel> FYI - DACS ;)

<NigelP> OpenDAX == Open DACS

Ilya: use a combination of the permission mapping from OpenDAX(?) and overlay an ODRL licence and merge the 2, and then apply it as an entitlement decision on the client side
... DataBP originally was going to create a web server, but for now it will be static

Mark: probably it is the inverse, that it is currently poc as static, but by end of January it will be a web server
... put it down as an action for credentials and specs for that service
... Atiq & Roy I will send it for you as well

<jo_> ACTION: MarkB to send out credential to PoC team leads

Mark: if you want to generate dynamic ODRL contracts, if you can check, that would be great

Jo: what are we doing about documenting?

Ilya: we aim to share a use story, validate with a small group to validate the right direction, then distribute to the broader group

Jo: fortunately sharing by mail has picked up, which is good - keep it up
... concern was expressed of sharing views in public groups
... what can be done about a list that won't be indexed or is private
... W3's policy is that everything is done in the public eye, offered one that is not indexed by search engines

Ilya: preference is pure email, not captured in an archive

Jo: Mark back to you

<jo_> ACTION: Jo to check archive status of public but not indexed list (needs to be non-archived)

Mark: Ilya mentioned preparing a user story, important because it might be when he presents the user story, the language might need to be extended. The breakout group felt that it is important to focus over the language in terms of priorities
... I think that's all for now

Ben: I have a question that might be premature, if I would call your ODRL service, what identifier would I use to pull the licence ?

Mark: I would prepare a login, different from Roy's ...

Ben: and I just pull some licences?

Mark: and it is dynamic
... Atiq & Roy will be presenting in 2 weeks

Ben: Atiq nor Roy are on the call

Jo: Mark can you follow up with them
... questions for Mark or... Ilya ?
... hearing none, that's 2 items on the agenda in 1

Test Cases

Jo: so there is now to you ben on test cases

<ben> https://github.com/w3c/market-data-odrl-profile/blob/gh-pages/Test-Cases.md


Ben: set an ambition on trying to get to 50 test cases, and by that I mean 50 questions that get passed around market data space. And with that I am trying to capture them for 2 reasons: 1) what is the scope and 2) make sure that we define the language that can answer those questions in scope
... we are now on beyond 60, which is a fantastic effort
... what I really like to ask is: I don't know if people that know these questions well and if they had a chance to look at the page and assess if they are representative of the kind of questions you are asked on a regular basis or if we are just missing

Laura: yeah, they are although some are not specific to our case. Pretty spot on.

<jo_> ACTION: MarkB to check that... Atiq and Roy are aware of the request to present the PoC streams in 2 weeks time

Michelle: I haven't been through the list since last week, but it looked comprehensive.

Olga: they seem to be broad enough to address different aspects of the process

Ben: they are beginning to form into patterns, I will be doing some work reviewing if they are repetitive and group them in patterns

Mark: can I make a suggestion, some of these test cases seem permission or obligation

Ben: really good point, I really support that

John: some of the things I've added are commercial focus around how we use the data

Ben: really good

John: better to have a big set of data, rather than miss the target

Jo: putting them in the parking lot, rather than dropping them

Ben: yes

Jo: very good coverage
... any further gap analysis ? Members from this group ?

Ben: they are the experts, if they could have a look - anyone else on the call if they can see
... will add to the richness of queries

Jo: that's the link on the chat

Aaron: looks fairly comprehensive, I'll have a look

AOB

Jo: great, any further comments ?
... we've ran out of agenda
... move on to AOB
... try to use Zoom with automatic transcription

<jo_> ACTION: Ben to check whether he can open a Zoom account with automatic transcripton

Back to Test Cases

Trisha: just looking at the use cases, seems missing purge of data

John: it is IAtD-12

Ben: <long explanation of Laura's transformation requirements>

Laura: I could do some examples, <describes example>

Ben: we have 3 exchanges on this community group, I'll be seeking answers

More AOB

<jo_> (Meeting Closed: Thanks to Josh for scribing)




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