RE: Request for ODRL Test Cases

Hello.  I'm impressed with the test cases.  A few additional questions I would suggest:


-        Is there a cost to view delayed data?

-        What duration of time is required for data to be considered delayed?

-        How many times am I allowed to snap real-time data for a display application, before I must declare those with access for real-time?

-        Do DACS compliant applications need to be considered for the unit of count?

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From: Benedict Whittam Smith [mailto:ben@deonticdata.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 8:26 AM
To: John Ikel <jikel@3di-ltd.com>; Mark Bird <mark.bird@databp.com>; public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org
Subject: Re: Request for ODRL Test Cases

Thanks - great questions. Takes us up to 36 - only 14 to go. Added two categories too. I've updated the test cases here: https://github.com/w3c/market-data-odrl-profile/blob/gh-pages/Test-Cases.md

Would be great if we could get some questions that probe the border between display and non-display use such as: Can I convert currencies before displaying in a widget?

Ben


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Subject: Re: Request for ODRL Test Cases


Some of these might be considered painfully obvious or inappropriate at this time, but I've always undertood the point of ODRL was to make it very easy to obtain answers, although I appreciate the ask for the usage cases of the data under the contract... rather than perhaps obligations.





Trials / Free of Fees



** Can I entitle my internal developers for free?



Can I entitle my IT Support / Market Data staff for free?



Can I get a free trial access for any user?



Can I get a free trial access for applications within development?



Do I need to declare and/or pay for data utilisation within my development or UAT environement?





Disaster Recovery



Do I need to declare and/or pay for data utilisation within my business continuity / disaster recovery environements?





Redistribution of Data



Can I send some data, in charts and/or tables, in a non-editable electronic or hardcopy format, in a client portfolio performance or valuation report to 2000 clients, on a monthly basis?



Can I send some data, in charts and/or tables, in a non-editable electronic or hardcopy format, in marketing materials to 5000 prospective clients, on an ad-hoc basis?



Can I send some data, in charts and/or tables, in an email or tweet/other social media post, as marketing to an unlimited number of current and prospective clients, on a weekly basis?





Internal Distribution of Data ("Control"?)



Can I publish a particular raw real-time/delayed/intraday/end of day data set to an application which does not provide the ability to control and report those downstream users and/or applications?





Reporting



What is the unit of count I need to report?



How often do I need to report?





Derived Data



Can I create a structured product using data as underlying?



Can I create manipulated / reverse-calculable data and redistribute that internally?





Reporting



What is the unit of count I need to report?



How often do I need to report?









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John Ikel, DLS

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From: Mark Bird <mark.bird@databp.com<mailto:mark.bird@databp.com>>
Date: Wednesday, 21 October 2020 at 22:03
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Hi everyone,



One of our deliverables for the January proof-of-concept is a broad list of test cases that we can use to validate whether or not the language is able to answer everyday data licensing inquiries. Michelle Roberts, Richard Mundell, and Jeremy Green have started the list, their entries can be found here: https://github.com/w3c/market-data-odrl-profile/blob/gh-pages/Test-Cases.md



We'd like to get to 50 distinct test cases before we present. I'm going to add a few more via this email that will take us to 25 total. If you have one, two, or five data licensing "can I do this" questions that you can add, please just reply with them to this email thread. We'll spend some time discussing them next Wednesday, and then add them (and any others we come up with on the call next week) to the master list.



Here are my suggestions:



Access of Data



Am I (or is my firm) entitled to access a particular date range of historical content?



Redistribution of Data



Can I entitle my internal developers for free?



Can I publish a particular real-time data set to a public (unauthenticated) website or widget?



Can I publish a particular real-time data set to an authenticated website or widget?



Can I publish a particular delayed data set to a public (unauthenticated) website or widget?



Can I publish a particular delayed data set to an authenticated website or widget?



Derived Data



Can I create a tradeable CFD instrument using one or more particular data sets?



Can I create a non-tradable product containing one or more particular data sets for use as input to pricing evaluation of physical products?



Can I distribute my tradable derived instrument as a white-labeled product?



Bonus points for creating a whole new category. Looking forward to seeing what we come up with.

Best,
Mark







Mark Bird | DataBP

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New York, NY 10005

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