- From: Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:23:36 -0500
- To: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
- Cc: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>, "O'Day, Brian" <brian.oday@intel.com>, public-maturity@w3.org
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Agree! sent from my phone On Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 12:05 PM Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org> wrote: > As we discussed during today’s meeting we will use the following naming > convention including the date in the file name so it’s easy to tell which > version you have. > > > > Here is what this will look like. > > > > A11yMaturityTemplate-20230719.xlsx > > > > Please comment especially if you were unable to attend today’s meeting if > this is good with you. > > > > > > Thanks > > Charles > > EOM > > > > *From: *Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> > *Date: *Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:53 AM > *To: *David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> > *Cc: *Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>, O'Day, Brian < > brian.oday@intel.com>, Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>, > public-maturity@w3.org <public-maturity@w3.org> > *Subject: *Re: Assessment template links > > Thanks for understanding, David, All. So here's the conclusion after > discussing this with Roy this morning ... > > If we're good with Charles suggestion, that's the important piece of > data that we stick with until the spread sheet goes away. > > It's perfectly fin to put it on our wiki somewhere. The entire link, in > that case, should stay the same until we eventually get rid of the > spread sheet, because we've replaced it with our planned HTML forms > front end. > > Everything else that was discussed can happen as we might want, and we > can change it in the future as much as we might want. The above two > things are the immutable pieces. > > Make sense? > > > Janina > > David Fazio writes: > > Thank you, for being blunt. It may have been me that started this > spinoff. It looks like many of us misunderstood. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jul 17, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: > > > > > > wfm Charles LaPierre writes: > For the file name only how about: > > > A11yMaturityTemplate.xlsx > A11YMaturityModel.xlsx > > > Thanks > Charles > > EOM > > From: Janina Sajka > Date: > > External (janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>) > > Report This Email< > https://protection.inkyphishfence.com/report?id=bmV0b3JnZnQ4NDM0NDAvZGZhemlvQGhlbGl4b3BwLmNvbS9lODk4OTk1YzFlZTUyMmMxZjU3ODJjY2RkZTAzMWQ1MS8xNjg5NjA3MjY0LjIz#key=50ba8bc2aff72a9d907827a3c6364584> > FAQ< > https://www.godaddy.com/help/report-email-with-advanced-email-security-40813> > GoDaddy Advanced Email Security, Powered by INKY< > https://www.inky.com/protection-by-inky> > > > > > > wfm > > > > > > > > Charles LaPierre writes: > > > > > For the file name only how about: > > > > > > > > > > A11yMaturityTemplate.xlsx > > > > > A11YMaturityModel.xlsx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Charles > > > > > EOM > > > > > > > > > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> > > > > > Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:06 AM > > > > > To: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> > > > > > Cc: O'Day, Brian <brian.oday@intel.com>, Charles LaPierre < > charlesl@benetech.org>, Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>, > public-maturity@w3.org <public-maturity@w3.org> > > > > > Subject: Re: Assessment template links > > > > > Sorry, folks. Haven't read the entire thread, but I can already tell > > > > > we're going overboard! > > > > > > > > > > We don't want a 10 word long filename! > > > > > > > > > > We can say whatever we want to say in the text we put into Editor's > Note > > > > > content, and elsewhere in our document. Please don't confuse that with > > > > > the filename [name].xlsx > > > > > > > > > > I need the value of [filename] right now. As far as I'm concerned, the > > > > > rest is gravy for now. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to be so blunt! > > > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > > > David Fazio writes: > > > > > > We should also make sure we include the word “sample”, or something > similar, somewhere because it’s not prescriptive. It’s an example. Along > with my earlier comment: > > > > > > > > > > > > I would add “W3C Accessibility” in front of “Maturity Assessment” fo > 2 reasons: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Branding > > > > > > 2. Compliance with COGA’s How To Make Content Usable for People with > Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the title would be: W3C Accessibility Maturity-Assessment > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2023, at 9:41 AM, O'Day, Brian <brian.oday@intel.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astute point! 😊 > > > > > > > > > External (brian.oday@intel.com<mailto:brian.oday@intel.com>) > > > > > > Report This Email< > 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<stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>; David Fazio < > dfazio@helixopp.com> > > > > > > Cc: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>; public-maturity@w3.org > > > > > > Subject: Re: Assessment template links > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you all think, shouldn’t Accessibility be in the name? > Couldn’t there by other Maturity Models in the future? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Charles > > > > > > EOM > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com<mailto: > stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>> > > > > > > Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 at 6:38 AM > > > > > > To: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com<mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>> > > > > > > Cc: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>>, > public-maturity@w3.org<mailto:public-maturity@w3.org> < > public-maturity@w3.org<mailto:public-maturity@w3.org>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Assessment template links > > > > > > TBH I thought the question that was being asked was "Where will > users see this link?" not "What is the file name?" – hence the focus of my > comments. Sorry for misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Between Janina's and David's suggestions, the file name proposal is: > "W3C-Maturity-Assessment.xlsx" > > > > > > > > > > > > Thumbs up from me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Content-wise for the link in the body content I'd suggest "Download > the W3C Maturity Assessment" to align with that name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 8:05 AM David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com > <mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>> wrote: > > > > > > I would add “W3C Accessibility” in front of “Maturity Assessment” fo > 2 reasons: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Branding > > > > > > 2. Compliance with COGA’s How To Make Content Usable for People with > Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the title would be: W3C Accessibility Maturity-Assessment > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2023, at 8:00 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net > <mailto:janina@rednote.net>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We said we would try to resolve naming the .xlsx link via email. So > > > > > > > > > > > > far, no one, including Stacey has proposed a new name. I ask now, > because we're most likely to get this done if we can > > > > > > > > > > > > conclude this conversation by end of business today, Monday 17 July. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The location, the way we highlight it, all that conversation is not > the > > > > > > > > > > > > important point right now. The name of the spread sheet is what we > need > > > > > > > > > > > > to decide. I'm proposing: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maturity-Assessment.xlsx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, to answer Stacey's question, no, we don't need to say this is > > > > > > > > > > > > Excel. The file extension makes that clear. Furthermore, other tools > > > > > > > > > > > > (like Linux/Unix LibreOffice and Apple's Numbers) are perfectly able > to > > > > > > > > > > > > read and write .xlsx files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stacey Swinehart writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assessment template location suggestions in 2.4 Assessment > Template: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - include a link in the first sentence: Organizational ICT > Accessibility > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maturity is assessed using the W3C > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > 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We > > > > > > > > > > > > > might consider > > > > > > > > > > > > > adding what tool the template is in. Might not be necessary, > but just a > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Would visually look like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Download assessment template* > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > 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> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we need to include a resources section in the appendix for all > of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > downloadable templates? Or is that too much redundancy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) > > > > > > > > > > > > Accessibility Consultant > 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