- From: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:04:36 +0000
- To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>
- CC: "O'Day, Brian" <brian.oday@intel.com>, Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>, "public-maturity@w3.org" <public-maturity@w3.org>
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As we discussed during today’s meeting we will use the following naming convention including the date in the file name so it’s easy to tell which version you have. Here is what this will look like. A11yMaturityTemplate-20230719.xlsx Please comment especially if you were unable to attend today’s meeting if this is good with you. Thanks Charles EOM From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 11:53 AM To: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> Cc: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>, O'Day, Brian <brian.oday@intel.com>, Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>, public-maturity@w3.org <public-maturity@w3.org> Subject: Re: Assessment template links Thanks for understanding, David, All. So here's the conclusion after discussing this with Roy this morning ... If we're good with Charles suggestion, that's the important piece of data that we stick with until the spread sheet goes away. It's perfectly fin to put it on our wiki somewhere. The entire link, in that case, should stay the same until we eventually get rid of the spread sheet, because we've replaced it with our planned HTML forms front end. Everything else that was discussed can happen as we might want, and we can change it in the future as much as we might want. The above two things are the immutable pieces. Make sense? Janina David Fazio writes: > Thank you, for being blunt. It may have been me that started this spinoff. It looks like many of us misunderstood. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 17, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: > > > wfm Charles LaPierre writes: > For the file name only how about: > > A11yMaturityTemplate.xlsx > A11YMaturityModel.xlsx > > > Thanks > Charles > EOM > > From: Janina Sajka > Date: > External (janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>) > Report This Email<https://protection.inkyphishfence.com/report?id=bmV0b3JnZnQ4NDM0NDAvZGZhemlvQGhlbGl4b3BwLmNvbS9lODk4OTk1YzFlZTUyMmMxZjU3ODJjY2RkZTAzMWQ1MS8xNjg5NjA3MjY0LjIz#key=50ba8bc2aff72a9d907827a3c6364584> FAQ<https://www.godaddy.com/help/report-email-with-advanced-email-security-40813> GoDaddy Advanced Email Security, Powered by INKY<https://www.inky.com/protection-by-inky> > > > wfm > > > > Charles LaPierre writes: > > > For the file name only how about: > > > > > > A11yMaturityTemplate.xlsx > > > A11YMaturityModel.xlsx > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > Charles > > > EOM > > > > > > From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> > > > Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 at 8:06 AM > > > To: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> > > > Cc: O'Day, Brian <brian.oday@intel.com>, Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>, Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>, public-maturity@w3.org <public-maturity@w3.org> > > > Subject: Re: Assessment template links > > > Sorry, folks. Haven't read the entire thread, but I can already tell > > > we're going overboard! > > > > > > We don't want a 10 word long filename! > > > > > > We can say whatever we want to say in the text we put into Editor's Note > > > content, and elsewhere in our document. Please don't confuse that with > > > the filename [name].xlsx > > > > > > I need the value of [filename] right now. As far as I'm concerned, the > > > rest is gravy for now. > > > > > > Sorry to be so blunt! > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > David Fazio writes: > > > > We should also make sure we include the word “sample”, or something similar, somewhere because it’s not prescriptive. It’s an example. Along with my earlier comment: > > > > > > > > I would add “W3C Accessibility” in front of “Maturity Assessment” fo 2 reasons: > > > > > > > > 1. Branding > > > > 2. Compliance with COGA’s How To Make Content Usable for People with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Guide. > > > > > > > > So the title would be: W3C Accessibility Maturity-Assessment > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2023, at 9:41 AM, O'Day, Brian <brian.oday@intel.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Astute point! 😊 > > > > External (brian.oday@intel.com<mailto:brian.oday@intel.com>) > > > > Report This 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> > > > > > > > Astute point! 😊 > > > > > > > > From: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 7:38 AM > > > > To: Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>; David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> > > > > Cc: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>; public-maturity@w3.org > > > > Subject: Re: Assessment template links > > > > > > > > What do you all think, shouldn’t Accessibility be in the name? Couldn’t there by other Maturity Models in the future? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Charles > > > > EOM > > > > > > > > From: Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com<mailto:stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>> > > > > Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 at 6:38 AM > > > > To: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com<mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>> > > > > Cc: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>>, public-maturity@w3.org<mailto:public-maturity@w3.org> <public-maturity@w3.org<mailto:public-maturity@w3.org>> > > > > Subject: Re: Assessment template links > > > > TBH I thought the question that was being asked was "Where will users see this link?" not "What is the file name?" – hence the focus of my comments. Sorry for misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > Between Janina's and David's suggestions, the file name proposal is: "W3C-Maturity-Assessment.xlsx" > > > > > > > > Thumbs up from me. > > > > > > > > Content-wise for the link in the body content I'd suggest "Download the W3C Maturity Assessment" to align with that name. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 8:05 AM David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com<mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>> wrote: > > > > I would add “W3C Accessibility” in front of “Maturity Assessment” fo 2 reasons: > > > > > > > > 1. Branding > > > > 2. Compliance with COGA’s How To Make Content Usable for People with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Guide. > > > > > > > > So the title would be: W3C Accessibility Maturity-Assessment > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2023, at 8:00 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We said we would try to resolve naming the .xlsx link via email. So > > > > > > > > far, no one, including Stacey has proposed a new name. I ask now, because we're most likely to get this done if we can > > > > > > > > conclude this conversation by end of business today, Monday 17 July. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The location, the way we highlight it, all that conversation is not the > > > > > > > > important point right now. The name of the spread sheet is what we need > > > > > > > > to decide. I'm proposing: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maturity-Assessment.xlsx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, to answer Stacey's question, no, we don't need to say this is > > > > > > > > Excel. The file extension makes that clear. Furthermore, other tools > > > > > > > > (like Linux/Unix LibreOffice and Apple's Numbers) are perfectly able to > > > > > > > > read and write .xlsx files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stacey Swinehart writes: > > > > > > > > > Assessment template location suggestions in 2.4 Assessment Template: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - include a link in the first sentence: Organizational ICT Accessibility > > > > > > > > > Maturity is assessed using the W3C > > > > > > > > > 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> > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > get started. > > > > > > > > > - Suggest "Download the assessment template" because it's more > > > > > > > > > accurate to what the action is–downloading the template. We > > > > > > > > > might consider > > > > > > > > > adding what tool the template is in. Might not be necessary, but just a > > > > > > > > > thought. > > > > > > > > > - Would visually look like this: > > > > > > > > > *Download assessment template* > > > > > > > > > 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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we need to include a resources section in the appendix for all of the > > > > > > > > > downloadable templates? Or is that too much redundancy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) > > > > > > > > Accessibility Consultant 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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > > > > > > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures 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