RE: [math-on-web] CG meeting minutes, 2017/04/27 JeanKap

Ahh. Yes. We definitely have K-12 and Higher Ed math. Two-dimensional layout? What specifically are you guys looking for? Graphs?

Thanks,

Jean Kaplansky
Content Architect/Strategist | Technical Account Manager | UI/UX |
Accessibility Analyst | XML, HTML, and CSS Developer |
Instructional Designer
+1.518.930.1068 (tel:+1.518.930.1068)
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On May 3, 2017, 11:17 AM -0400, Pedersen, John - Hoboken <jpederse@wiley.com>, wrote:
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> My comment was actually about Jacaranda Wiley content (our only high-school-level content where the kind of two-dimensional layout that we were discussing might occur). But yes, MHE may have a lot more primary- and secondary-level content.
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> From: Jean Kaplansky [mailto:jeankap@earthlink.net]
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> Subject: Fwd: [math-on-web] CG meeting minutes, 2017/04/27 JeanKap
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> Examples from Wiley books? Better to ask Tzviya than Jean.
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> Jean, however, can take requests for MHE books. What are you guys looking for specifically?
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> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Peter Krautzberger <peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org (mailto:peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org)> wrote:
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> Below are the minutes from the CG meeting last week.
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> ## mathonweb CG, 2017/04/27
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> * Present: Peter, Dani, Volker, Charles, John, Sam, Neil
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> Updates from the a11y TF
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> * Daniel: back to math role
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> * now feel it's useful, like img but not "... image" but (sometimes) "...(math)"
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> * not general enough for scientific content (e.g., chemistry)
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> * coordinate, ask them what we can provide them with, how we might help positively shape
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> * ACTION Yes
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> * intro: Sam Dooley
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> * previously IBM, Netscape plugin techexplorer, turned into math equation editor, now JS, used in TestNav Testing platforms
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> change CG meetings to topic-oriented cycling (layout, accessibility, notation)
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> * Peter: related: latinreq, https://www.w3.org/TR/dpub-latinreq/#equations
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