Re: What's in this project for implementers?

On 28 November 2012 15:07, Ryan Freebern <rfreebern@unionstmedia.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Dave Pawson <dave.pawson@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> >From which my take away is 'but it has problems'
>> (what's the implied take away? Criticism of current implementations?)
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> I was just trying to convey that we understand there are problems, and the
> community would be better served if those were fixed.

Kid gloves Ryan? If they take implications, read more into it,
then rejection is easier than acceptance. Sort of saying
they got it wrong (whether you did actually say that or not).
  The intent is right, merely suggesting we need extra caution
in how we say it?


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>> I think some will react negatively to creating a W3C account Ryan.
>> I like the alternative (though they may not be polite!)
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> Yeah, I figured they might balk at creating an account. That's why I
> suggested just sending me a note.

Good one.

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>> My general reaction.
>> 1. It's too early? We have nothing to tempt them, nothing to offer them.
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> Sure, but on the other hand, doesn't it also make sense to try to get them
> to participate as early as possible, so that we're less likely to have to
> radically change our approach later in the process? What we have to tempt
> them with is making sure their concerns are taken into account, which isn't
> much but I think it has value.

I'm not much good at this (anyone help please?)
Agree with your point. And it is stated.
I think if we had produced something to show for our work,
as they have for theirs, we may get a better reception?
  If nothing else, to give them something to criticise.


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>> 2. If they wanted to they could have joined this group as we did.
>> AFAICT none have.
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> Sure, if they knew about it. Unless one is actively interested in the W3C,
> it's easy to miss these groups.

Point. I was thinking from the original blog post, from Marbux post on
their lists.




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>> How about waiting until we have core done and can include that, with
>> rationale?
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> I'm willing to wait if the group thinks that's a better approach.

It would be mine.

Any other views, pro or con an early invite from Ryan?

regards




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