Minutes: Low Vision Task Force 9 May 2019

source: https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html
<https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html>

Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
09 May 2019Attendees
PresentLaura, Jim, Shawn, JoAnneRegretsWayne, JasonChairSV_MEETING_CHAIR
ScribeLaura
Contents

   - Topics <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#agenda>
      1. WCAG 2.2 LV SC
      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjrfIP9KLqTn_Jlq6-T1JvsqY924R_5z1WI2YLv3obc/edit#gid=0
      <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#item01>
      2. Important Threads on AGWG
      <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#item02>
      3. Laura's updated images
      <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#item03>
      4. Review changes to Requirements Document
      http://htmlpreview.github.io//?https://github.com/w3c/low-vision-a11y-tf/blob/jim-edits/requirements.html
      <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#item04>
      5. don't rely on color alone.
      <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#item05>
      6. change rewrap to relow in document
      <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#item06>
   - Summary of Action Items
   <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
   - Summary of Resolutions
   <https://www.w3.org/2019/05/09-lvtf-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>

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<JimA> font weight in contrast tests https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/665

<JimA> Contrast Ratio Math and Related Visual Issues

<JimA> font weight in contrast tests https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/665

<JimA> Contrast Ratio Math and Related Visual Issues

<scribe> scribe: Laura

Jim: Spreadsheet on 2.2 SCs.
... Jim and Joanne will be at accessU can discuss then
... shawn will be there too.
... 3 SC related to Low Vision.

<JimA> related to LV - Proximity, focus, refresh, icons, sRGB

jim: The icon SC is also related to low vision
WCAG 2.2 LV SC
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjrfIP9KLqTn_Jlq6-T1JvsqY924R_5z1WI2YLv3obc/edit#gid=0

<JimA> close item 1
Important Threads on AGWG

jim: a couple of imporatnt threads.

<JimA> font weight in contrast tests https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/665

<JimA> sRGB - https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/695

jim: font weight and sRGB
Laura's updated images

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2019May/0004.html

<JimA>
http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-a11y-tf/requirements.html#color-vision

Laura: Attached are simulated examples of color blindness for the
requirements doc that meet Non-text Contrast. 1.4.11. I added a white
border around some of the slices in order to achieve 3:1 or better contrast.
... I wondering if we consider the current presentation of graphics
essential to the information being conveyed.

<JimA> perhaps keep current pictures and add the other images for a bit of
education

<JimA> shawn: adds complexity. proposes other ideas

<JimA> shawn: are they essential? seems like it.

<JimA> jim: perhaps put black and white lines around all pie pieces

Laura: good idea.

<JimA> shawn: quite a challenge. agree with the concept, seems to add a lot
of complexity.

<JimA> laura: essential for lowvision and color vision people.

<JimA> shawn: is it essential for people to distinguish each piece of the
pie. thinks answer is no. important that people see things differently, but
not that they see each piece individually. more of a gestalt issue

<shawn> ... so is it worth the added visual complexity of the white and
black lines? I think no.

<shawn> +1 for including a note

shawn: put on wiki page. and add a note.

<JimA> important for LV to share the considerations that we worked through
on a wiki page, so others understand the issues.
Review changes to Requirements Document
http://htmlpreview.github.io//?https://github.com/w3c/low-vision-a11y-tf/blob/jim-edits/requirements.html

<JimA> added all wcag and UAAG related sc.

<shawn> [ Shawn sees "@@ References is a wiki page. Add to this document or
create another WAI page (not wiki)" and thinks it's good to leave that a
wiki pages (so we can update it) ]

<JimA> user need @@ blocks of text ok

<shawn> +1 to deleting "The Task Force plans to expand this section." (we
could always add more later if we decide to)

jim: remove figures: 1
... added pargraph on “Color is combination of hue, saturation, and
brighness…”

shawn: may be adding more than we need.

<JimA> shawn: not strongly - talk about brightness and less about hue and
staturation.

Laura: okay with it.

Shawn: okay with leaving it.

<JimA> @@ color intro ok.

Jim: added “brightness adjustment…”

<JimA> laura +1

<JimA> shawn+!

shawn: +1

jim: added “Not Relying on Color…”
don't rely on color alone.

Laura +1 for jim’s paragraph

<JimA> shawn may rewrite.

Jim: Rewrap for One Direction Scrolling @@rename to Reflow to mirror

shawn: rewrap and reflow are same thing.
change rewrap to relow in document

jim: will re-edit.

<shawn> s/reedit./re-edit.

<JimA> jim to remove @@[removed link to blocks of text, defined at first
instance in document@@

jim: between wrapping lines @@(removed blocks of text) between lines in a
block of text
... call it lines of text.

<JimA> in line spacing - change to " between lines of text " @@(removed
blocks of text)

Jim: linled to “Rivers of white”

shawn: this is informative so think okay to link to wikipedia
... yes to @@perhapd substitue "digital information" for "web
... Thanks jim

jim: not meeting next week.

<JimA> !!! no meeting next week - ACCESSU !!!

<JimA> trackbot, end meeting
Summary of Action ItemsSummary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]

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Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
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"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964