- From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:11:50 +0000
- To: "Repsher, Stephen J" <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>
- CC: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Apologies, I realised I missed this thread last month. With that level of spacing being added, I think we have to stop applying it to all text on the page. It looks like it would result in well over 10% increase in text-width, in the region of 30%? As soon as people test that in practice, it will blow away many navigation mechanisms, and areas of layout that are constrained. I suggest that we apply it to ‘blocks of text’: https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#blockstextdef “more than one sentence of text”. E.g. “…by adapting all of the following for blocks of text:” Does that raise alarm bells for anyone? -Alastair On 16/06/2017, 18:54, "Repsher, Stephen J" <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com> wrote: All, I reviewed the McLeish study as well and I think I concur mostly with Wayne. It's worth noting though there is large scatter in the data though, especially above 0.15em ("normal + 30%" in the article). The trend line shown is not described, but appears to be a simple least-squares fit. Given the scatter, the choice of curve fit would also affect interpretation. Based on this study, I think we need to cap any SC number to less than 0.15em, so I'm fine with the original 0.12em. I also would subscribe to Wayne's theory about RSVP being a very unrealistic approach to measuring reading speed for folks with low vision. There's no way it's a Galilean invariant process. One thing I'd disagree with though is about word spacing. We either need to find a study on this or apply a proportionality rule or some other logic. As letter spacing goes up, the ratio of space between words to space between letters goes way down, so eventually it'll just look like a string of letters. Do we have any articles that studied them together? If not, I'd set word spacing so that ratio remains roughly the same. I do need to go back and fix my equations though because I had assumed letter spacing was not added between words. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:54 AM To: Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org> Subject: Re: Letter and Word Spacing: Final Analysis Hi Wayne, In case you missed this study when Mike Gower posted it on GitHub: Extra-large letter spacing improves reading in dyslexia http://www.pnas.org/content/109/28/11455.full A while back I found Legge's Aug 2016 study, "Reading Digital with Low Vision". He says: "Overall, the evidence indicates that increasing spacing between letters is not helpful..." http://search.proquest.com/docview/1825176282 Kindest Regards, Laura On 6/14/17, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > Thank you! > > I updated the folks on GitHub: > https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78#issuecomment-308421776 > > And asked Jim to put this on a future LVTF agenda. > > Kindest Regards, > Laura > > On 6/13/17, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote: >> *Letter and Word Spacing* *Summary of Results:* >> >> For best reading results the spacing should be .25em maximum. >> However, the loss of performance between .12em and .25em is less than >> 1/4 in reading speed. I think .15em is the best because that gives >> 95% of the benefit. >> After that there is almost no benefit. After .25em there is none. >> >> Word spacing may not be necessary, because browsers tack on the >> letter spacing to the normal word spacing anyway. >> *Good News / Bad News* >> >> The good news. Alastair and I are both right in our calculations. >> >> The bad news. Alastair and I are both right in our calculations. >> >> We have a serious political decision to make. >> *Analysis* >> >> My letter spacing was based on an article, “A study of the effect of >> letter spacing on the reading speed of young readers with low >> vision”, Eve McLeish, Visual Impairment Service, UK (British Journal >> of Visual Impairment 25(2) 2007). In this article, the author builds >> a table for spacing of typed assignments for children with low >> vision. The formula she used was STEP=[fontSize/20], for each test >> bracket. Each STEP represents increasing the letter spacing by 1/10 >> of the letter size. She used points for her font size but we will use >> pixels. McLeish found significant results with reading speed up to >> n*STEP for n=1… 5. However, the slope went from steep to horizontal >> in this range. It was concave down going flat at n=5. When I computed >> these results, I started at n=5. Example: for font size of 16px, >> 5*STEP = 5(16px/20)=4px=0.25em. The formula works the same for all >> font sizes. >> >> >> >> I got to these values the first time and noticed that the performance >> curve really flattened between n=3 and 5. It grew from 0 to 20% >> increase in reading speed from n=0… 3. Then grew from 20% to 22% >> between 3 and 5. I should have selected 3 first and got 3*.8=2.4px= >> .15em. Fear of developer response, got the best of me, so I >> suggested the .12em. At that size, the performance curve still gave a >> 15% increase in reading speed. >> >> For testing, I used Firefox with, Tahoma and the text, “Lorem ipsum >> dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor >> incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, >> quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea >> commodo consequat. >> Duis >> aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum >> dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat >> non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est >> laborum.” I got the following results: >> >> Let Average Char be the number of pixels taken by an average >> character in the passage. >> >> Letter Spacing >> >> Average Char >> >> Increase >> >> Normal >> >> 7.004px >> >> 0 >> >> 0.12em >> >> 8.921px >> >> 1.917px or 27% >> >> 0.15em >> >> 9.404px >> >> 2.4px or 34% >> >> 0.25em >> >> 11.004px >> >> 4.0px or 57% >> *Controversy* >> >> Aside from the huge impact on layout there are other difficulties. >> >> The research is mixed. The benefits of letter spacing are measured by >> various experiments in the range from no effect to simply miraculous. >> McLeish is in the middle; her methodology is sound, and she observes >> the impact in the most natural setting. Her findings rang true with >> my experience. >> >> The most significant article that shows no effect is: The effect of >> letter spacing on reading speed in central and peripheral vision by >> S. T. Chung (Investigative Ophthalmology and Visual Science, 2002 >> Apr, 43(4):1270-6). >> Chung’s methodology is sound, but she uses a different instrument for >> measurement. McLeish uses flash cards while, Chung uses Rapid Serial >> Visual Presentation (RSVP). The words are drifted past at varying >> speeds. >> Chung’s >> theory is that an individual can read faster when more letters are >> fit in the most sensitive reading zone of a reader’s retina. >> Increased letter spacing reduces this value and therefore reading speed must suffer. >> >> Both authors are correct, in my opinion. This needs to be tested of >> course, but here is my reasoning. McLeish’s use of cards, forces the >> participant to orient their most sensitive reading zone each time the >> card is presented. Thus, McLeish measures orientation and >> recognition. Chung uses text that drifts into the participants >> optimal reading zone, so no orientation is needed. This would mean >> that the benefit in letter spacing would be in helping the reader >> orient their most sensitive reading zone to the target. That is just >> a theory, but it does explain the difference in two well designed >> studies. >> > > > -- > Laura L. Carlson > -- Laura L. Carlson
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