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Re: Metadata On Hover SC Text

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 10:45:26 -0600
Message-ID: <CAOavpvfZSo6HOYFr5UGy2A9Xds9rzuRW_inS9yCkgyc4g2BC-A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Cc: "public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org" <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Hi Alastair,

All good points. Thank you.

In one of the early versions [1] we had "Simply Put: Do not rely on
tool tips alone" in the description. The SC text was:
"Metadata in a webpage that is shown on hover does not include
information necessary to perceive content. "

So we are going full circle :-)

Kindest regards,
Laura

[1] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/index.php?title=Metadata_On_Hover&oldid=1978

On 11/18/16, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote:
> Hi Laura,
>
> That example wouldn’t be covered by either of the proposed “metadata on
> hover” wordings because it is not triggered by hover. (It was triggered by
> deleting email, onclick on or keypress.)
> It also isn’t “informational content” because it has links, and isn’t
> meta-data… so it really isn’t covered here!
>
> Also, if something is already covered by an SC, I thought we would try and
> avoid overlap? It is clearly covered by the Resize content one.
>
> Also, I’m still not clear how the ‘fully visible’ definition would cover the
> mouse cursor aspect?
> As there is no author controlled way to affect the mouse cursor (except
> hiding it!), we really have to go with “not conveying information” that
> way.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Alastair
>
>
> On 18/11/2016, 16:13, "Laura Carlson" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi Alastair,
>
>     That's where the "not clipped or truncated" part of the "fully
>     visible" definition may be able to help if we go the route.
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Kindest Regards,
>     Laura
>
>     On 11/18/16, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote:
>     >> Question for #4: To address Wayne's use case where the popup covers
>     >> content in gmail and won't go away
>     >
>     > I think that fails 1.4.4 Resize text now, and if it doesn’t then it
> will
>     > fail Resize content.
>     >
>     > It is not triggered by hover, it was based on a user-action, it is
> just that
>     > the dismiss button is hidden due to the resizing.
>     >
>     > I think we can remove that as an example from this one, but it could
> be
>     > added to resize content.
>     >
>     > -Alastair
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>     --
>     Laura L. Carlson
>
>
>


-- 
Laura L. Carlson
Received on Friday, 18 November 2016 16:46:00 UTC

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