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Re: Metadata On Hover SC Text

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:56:13 -0600
Message-ID: <CAOavpvcVz7_k_CiquWTyciXWjae14yHxgwUX8EAM_j1mgn6PMQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com>
Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, "Rochford, John" <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>
Hi Katie,

I like it. Thank you! Is there anyone who can't live with Katie's version?

Kindest Regards,
Laura

On 11/17/16, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com> wrote:
> Laura,
>
> I see your point. What about this language?
>
> Content that is necessary for understanding which appears on hover, must
> be:
> * discernible,
> * not obscured by other content, and
> * available via any input method
>
> ​​​​​
>
>
>
> * katie *
>
> Katie Haritos-Shea
> Principal ICT Accessibility Architect (WCAG/Section 508/ADA/AODA)
>
> Cell: 703-371-5545 | ryladog@gmail.com | Oakton, VA | LinkedIn Profile |
> Office: 703-371-5545 | @ryladog
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:10 AM
> To: Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com>
> Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>; Alastair
> Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>; Rochford, John
> <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>; Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Metadata On Hover SC Text
>
> Hi Katie,
>
> Thanks. We can certainly can do that. Any thoughts on the following combined
> text?
>
> Content that is necessary for understanding and appears on hover:
> * is discernible,
> * does not obscure other content, and
> * is available by any input method.
>
> Maybe that is too much for one SC? If so, I can separate Into two SCs.
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
>
> On 11/17/16, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Laura,
>>
>> It should probably be two is my thought
>>
>> ​​​​​
>>
>>
>>
>> * katie *
>>
>> Katie Haritos-Shea
>> Principal ICT Accessibility Architect (WCAG/Section 508/ADA/AODA)
>>
>> Cell: 703-371-5545 | ryladog@gmail.com | Oakton, VA | LinkedIn Profile
>> |
>> Office: 703-371-5545 | @ryladog
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Laura Carlson [mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:13 AM
>> To: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>;
>> Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>; Rochford, John
>> <john.rochford@umassmed.edu>; Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Metadata On Hover SC Text
>>
>> Hi John, Alistair, Wayne, and all,
>>
>> I am trying to understand the proposed change to the Metadata On Hover
>> [1] SC text. During the October 27th meeting it was changed to:
>> "Content that appears on hover should not obscure the triggering
>> element or other content." After that Wayne asked me to add his "Popup
>> Text Overwriting Actionable Buttons Example" screenshot, which I did.
>>
>> With these 2 changes it seems that the original issue may have gotten
>> lost.
>> The original issue was not content obscuring the triggering element or
>> other content. It was the "Cursor Overlapping Tooltip Text on Hover"
>> due to authors using title attributes. Simply put: Authors shouldn't
>> not rely on tool tips alone. Authors should not put important
>> information in title attributes that can become unreadable when content
>> and cursors are enlarged.
>> Information should be available through more than one mechanism.
>>
>> I think either Alistair's or my prior versions of the SC text address
>> that original problem. That SC text was:
>>
>> 1. "Hidden content that is necessary for understanding is available
>> using any available input method." - Alistair, 25 October 2016 2.
>> "Metadata in a webpage that is shown on mouse-over does not include
>> information necessary to perceive content." - Laura, 21 October 2016
>>
>> But now that we have 2 different hover issues 1) Cursor Overlapping
>> Tooltip Text on Hover as well as 2) Popup Text Overwriting Actionable
>> Buttons in this one SC, how do we best address both issues? Ideas for new
>> SC verbiage?
>>
>> Or should they be 2 different SCs?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Laura
>> [1]
>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Metadata_on_Mouse-Ov
>> er
>>
>> --
>> Laura L. Carlson
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Laura L. Carlson
>
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Laura L. Carlson
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