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Re: Unacceptable (was Re: CFP - IEEE Technically Sponsored Computing Conference 2017 (London))

From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 17:16:35 +0100
To: "Courtney, Paul K." <Paul_Courtney@DFCI.HARVARD.EDU>, Supriya Kapoor <supriya.kapoor@thesai.org>
Cc: "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
Message-ID: <7a1c036d-d682-aea6-83d6-ea07b6331e06@w3.org>

You're not the first to complain but I am confident that you are in a 
minority. How do  know? Because I asked members of both this list and 
semantic-web and the results were clear. Many people value receiving 
CfPs so we don't want to ban them outright, but W3C mailing lists are 
not designed as promotional tools. Therefore we had to find a way 
through. I have received more positive messages then negative ones, some 
public, some private, so no, I am not pleasing everyone, but the overall 
impression is positive.

As for me being rude and snarky, point taken - I have had to apologise 
to a couple of people before now and I hope I have been more measured 
now that the issue seems to have settled down, but I do get irritated by 
meaningless "apologies for cross posting." I do not believe my message 
to Supriya Kapoor was rude or snarky; blunt, maybe, but no more.

The reasons for jumping on this particular message are:

1. the event advertised is a very general one about computing and is not 
related to Web technologies in general, let alone Semantic Web and 
Linked Data so the mail is not targeted;

2. the mail was sent to at least 3 lists.

Untargeted mail sent to lots of people? I call that spam.

I am pleased to say that many people have used the semantic-web list to 
post CfPs without cross-posting, see 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2016Aug/. If desired, 
you can filter the vast majority of those separately and just focus on 
the discussions around vocabularies for units, DCAT for RSS, DUL, etc. 
That's the desired outcome and, so far, it seems to be working.

As for being the sole arbiter, well, again, I did take the trouble to 
ask and secondly, as W3C Data Activity Lead, it's actually one of my 
jobs to maintain all our lists related to the general field of data on 
the Web.

Hope this clarifies the situation,


On 25/08/2016 15:12, Courtney, Paul K. wrote:
> Phil,
> Iíve been watching you from the sidelines be the sole vocal arbiter on the matter of CFP and I really donít understand the need you have to be unprofessional, rude, and snarky each and every time. This does nothing in my opinion but create an atmosphere of smug satisfaction for those who agree with you and dread for those who donít.
> Cheers,
> Paul
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> On 8/25/16, 5:13 AM, "Phil Archer" <phila@w3.org> wrote:
>     Dear Supriya Kapoor,
>     Your message to this and two other W3C lists is pure spam.
>     See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2016May/0032.html.
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Phil Archer
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Received on Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:16:49 UTC

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