Re: Please publish Turtle or JSON-LD instead of RDF/XML [was Re: Recommendation for transformation of RDF/XML to JSON-LD in a web browser?]

+1

I echo the issue of laboring to read RDF/XML as well as the issue of trying
to teach people about RDF. They see RDF/XML and think OK so it's just XML...

My use of RDF/XML is nothing more than an import to services that convert
it into more usable serializations for apps and services.

Jeff Mixter

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
wrote:

> On 9/3/15 1:53 PM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote:
> > With due respect, I think it would be foolish to burn the bridges to
> > XML. The XML standards and infrastructure are very well developed,
> > much more so than JSON-LD's. We use XSLT extensively on RDF/XML.
>
> We don't have to dump RDF/XML per se., we simply need minimize use and
> emphasis. For instance, we use RDF/XML extensively in our transformation
> middleware, but that's all inside and doesn't affect things on the outside.
>
> The problem with RDF/XML is that it had an exalted position in the
> Semantic Web realm for way too long. To this very day, many of us are
> still trying to get folks to understand that RDF is neither a format nor
> a dialect of XML.
>
> Kingsley
> >
> > Martynas
> > graphityhq.com
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 8:03 PM, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
> >> Side note: RDF/XML was the first RDF serialization standardized, over 15
> >> years ago, at a time when XML was all the buzz. Since then other
> >> serializations have been standardized that are far more human friendly
> to
> >> read and write, and easier for programmers to use, such as Turtle and
> >> JSON-LD.
> >>
> >> However, even beyond ease of use, one of the biggest problems with
> RDF/XML
> >> that I and others have seen over the years is that it misleads people
> into
> >> thinking that RDF is a dialect of XML, and it is not.  I'm sure this
> >> misconception was reinforced by the unfortunate depiction of XML in the
> >> foundation of the (now infamous) semantic web layer cake of 2001, which
> in
> >> hindsight is just plain wrong:
> >> http://www.w3.org/2001/09/06-ecdl/slide17-0.html
> >> (Admittedly JSON-LD may run a similar risk, but I think that risk is
> >> mitigated now by the fact that RDF is already more established in its
> own
> >> right.)
> >>
> >> I encourage all RDF publishers to use one of the other standard RDF
> formats
> >> such as Turtle or JSON-LD.  All commonly used RDF tools now support
> Turtle,
> >> and many or most already support JSON-LD.
> >>
> >> RDF/XML is not officially deprecated, but I personally hope that in the
> next
> >> round of RDF updates, we will quietly thank RDF/XML for its faithful
> service
> >> and mark it as deprecated.
> >>
> >> David Booth
> >>
> >
>
>
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>
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