- From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:49:57 +0000 (UTC)
- To: Sebastian Hellmann <hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, Kay Müller <kay.mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, Chris Taggart <countculture@gmail.com>, <public-lod@w3.org>, Rolf Kleef <rolf@openforchange.info>
Hi all,
Organizational Identifiers are a bit dangerous for the little people to talk about :-)
1) First, some food for thought ... if FOAF identifies real people rigorously, one would think complexity less and convergence faster for many fewer organizations. That would make no sense, unless (reads manual).
2) Second, an observation ... is the "Open World" assumption an HTML ordered list or an HTML unordered list ? Who decides ? Hint: Moses had 10 Commandments, but plainly meant an unordered list. Even the most (hardened agnostic) developer should be able to admit that 10 Commandments in an unordered list and 10 Items in an ordered list is not a valid substitution pattern. Learning to love Turtle is not a resolution to this dilemma, BTW.
3) Strategy Markup Language (StratML) Collections resolve these issues by using a compound key for the <StrategicPlanCore>:
a) Organization Name -> Acronym (caps of Proper Case)
b) Subdivision Name -> UUID, Acronym (caps of Proper Case)
c) (StratML (XML) File Name) -> (Acronym from a) DOT (Acronym from b) DOT xml
This can enable styling within the Core by CSS or XSLT while maintaining Collection integrity because an OUTER JOIN on Organization Name preserves a collection of right-directed graphs. If this sounds like slavery to you, take a nap, "they" can't own your dreams ;-)
--Gannon
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On Thu, 11/5/15, Rolf Kleef <rolf@openforchange.info> wrote:
Subject: Re: Are there any datasets about companies? ( DBpedia Open Data Initiative)
To: "Sebastian Hellmann" <hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, "Kay Müller" <kay.mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, "Chris Taggart" <countculture@gmail.com>, public-lod@w3.org
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2015, 6:49 AM
Hi Sebastian, Kay,
If you haven't done it
yet, I suggest getting in touch with Chris
Taggart of Open Corporates (cc'd). He has
years of experience doing
this, and is also
involved in cross-standards work on "organisational
identifiers", crucial in the development
of for instance the Open
Contracting Data
Standard and the International Aid Transparancy
Initiative:
http://www.open-contracting.org/
http://iatistandard.org/201/organisation-identifiers/
~~Rolf.
On 03/11/15 16:17, Sebastian Hellmann wrote:
> [Apologies for cross-posting]
>
> Dear all,
> this message is part announcement of an
open data initiative and part
> call for
feedback and support.
>
> We are considering to work on creating a
free, open and interoperable
> dataset on
companies and organisations, which we are planing to
> integrate into DBpedia+ and offer as dump
download. As we are in a very
> early
phase of the endeavour, we would like to know whether there
is
> existing work in this area.
>
> We are looking for
any available datasets which have information about
> companies and other organizations in any
language and any country.
> Ideally, the
datasets are:
> 1. downloadable as
dump
> 2. openly licensed , e.g. CC-BY
following the http://opendefinition.org/
> 3. in an easily parseable format, e.g. RDF
or CSV and not PDF
>
> But hey! Send around anything you know,
and we will look at it and see
> whether
we can make use of it. You can reach us either by replying
to
> this email or send feedback directly
to me and Kay Müller
> <kay.mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>.
> If you have any private/closed data,
please contact us as well. We might
>
make use of it to cross-reference and validate public/open
data with it.
> Or just learn from it to
build a good scheme.
>
> We started a link collection here (and
attached the current status at
> the end
of this email)
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit
> Also we started to collect potential
identifiers for linking here:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EMqemA1BlqvyOXGLzYbvY0IcBCAhaRd5XgYLMWIxGsA/edit#gid=0
>
> Regards and thank
you for any support on this,
> Sebastian
and Kay
>
>
##############################
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit
>
>
> *
>
>
> Open
Company Data
>
>
Open Company Data
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.buuo7dypfd9a>
>
> Identifiers for
companies/organisation
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.qs150ivpio94>
>
> URIs (Linked
Data/Semantic Web)
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.b9yeovqjeglz>
>
> Downloadable
Datasets with Company info (confirmed)
>
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.7ihxrlrypp14>
>
> Portals with no bulk
downloads
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.a95o85lqil72>
>
> Portals, we will
still need to investigate
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.p50bjh96q3ok>
>
>
>
>
Identifiers for companies/organisation
>
> Table with
identifiers:
>
>
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EMqemA1BlqvyOXGLzYbvY0IcBCAhaRd5XgYLMWIxGsA/edit#gid=0>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EMqemA1BlqvyOXGLzYbvY0IcBCAhaRd5XgYLMWIxGsA/edit#gid=0
>
>
> URIs (Linked
Data/Semantic Web)
>
> *
>
> DBpedia/Wikipedia/Wikidata
URIs - <http://dbpedia.org>http://dbpedia.org
>
> *
>
> LinkedGeoData - <http://linkedgeodata.org/>http://linkedgeodata.org/
>
>
> DownloadableDatasets with
Company info (confirmed)
>
> *
>
> VIAF - <http://viaf.org/viaf/data/>http://viaf.org/viaf/data/
>
> *
>
>
DBpedia -
>
<http://downloads.dbpedia.org/current/core/>http://downloads.dbpedia.org/current/core/
>
> *
>
>
Wikidata -
>
<http://downloads.dbpedia.org/current/ext/wikidata/>http://downloads.dbpedia.org/current/ext/wikidata/
>
> *
>
>
LinkedGeoData -
>
<http://downloads.linkedgeodata.org/releases/>http://downloads.linkedgeodata.org/releases/
>
> *
>
>
Company Data Index:
>
<http://index.okfn.org/dataset/companies/>http://index.okfn.org/dataset/companies/
>
>
o
>
>
e.g. UK company data:
> <http://download.companieshouse.gov.uk/en_output.html>http://download.companieshouse.gov.uk/en_output.html
>
>
> Portals with no bulk
downloads
>
> *
>
> <https://opencorporates.com/>https://opencorporates.com/
>
> *
>
>
<http://registries.opencorporates.com/>http://registries.opencorporates.com/
>
>
> Portals, we will still
need to investigate
>
>
> *
>
>
<https://www.wlw.de/>https://www.wlw.de/
>
> *
>
> <https://www.crunchbase.com>https://www.crunchbase.com
>
> *
>
>
<http://data.crunchbase.com/v3/page/crunchbase-open-data-map-odm>http://data.crunchbase.com/v3/page/crunchbase-open-data-map-odm
>
> *
>
>
<http://www.industrystock.de>http://www.industrystock.de
>
> *
>
>
<http://www.ebr.org/>http://www.ebr.org/
>
> *
>
> <https://simfin.com/data/browse/companies>https://simfin.com/data/browse/companies
>
> *
>
>
<http://c-lei.org/>http://c-lei.org/
>
> *
>
> <http://data.imf.org/>http://data.imf.org/
>
> *
>
>
<http://worldbank.270a.info/.html>http://worldbank.270a.info/.html
>
> *
>
>
<http://datacatalog.worldbank.org/>http://datacatalog.worldbank.org/
>
> *
>
>
<http://www.europages.com/>http://www.europages.com/
>
> *
>
>
<http://www.sec.gov/data>http://www.sec.gov/data
>
> *
>
>
<http://faculty.philau.edu/russowl/industry.html>http://faculty.philau.edu/russowl/industry.html
>
> *
>
> USA:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/
>
> *
>
>
India: http://www.companywiki.in/
>
> *
>
>
Handelsregister: www.Handelsregister.de
>
> *
>
>
Creditreform: http://www.creditsafetrial.com/de/?country=DE
>
> *
>
>
Bürgel: https://www.buergel.de/en
>
> *
>
>
Factiva:
>
https://global.factiva.com/factivalogin/login.asp?productname=global
>
> *
>
>
> Interesting Links:
>
> *
>
> German
> <http://get.torial.com/blog/2014/02/die-besten-quellen-fuer-wirtschaftsjournalisten-teil-1/>http://get.torial.com/blog/2014/02/die-besten-quellen-fuer-wirtschaftsjournalisten-teil-1/
>
> *
>
>
<http://get.torial.com/blog/2014/02/die-besten-quellen-fuer-wirtschaftsjournalisten-teil-2/>http://get.torial.com/blog/2014/02/die-besten-quellen-fuer-wirtschaftsjournalisten-teil-2/
>
> *
>
> --
> Sebastian Hellmann
>
AKSW/KILT research group
> Insitute for
Applied Informatics (InfAI) at Leipzig University
> DBpedia Association
>
Events:
> * *Nov 20th, 2015* Extended
Deadline for Quality Management of Semantic
> Web Assets (Data, Services and Systems)
> <http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/blog/call-papers-special-issue-quality-management-semantic-web-assets-data-services-and-systems>
> Venha para a Alemanha como PhD:
> <http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/csf>http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/csf
> Projects: http://dbpedia.org,
http://nlp2rdf.org,
> <http://linguistics.okfn.org>http://linguistics.okfn.org,
> https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt
<http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt>
>
Homepage: http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann
> Research Group: http://aksw.org
>
Thesis:
> http://tinyurl.com/sh-thesis-summary
> http://tinyurl.com/sh-thesis
--
Rolf
Kleef Open for Change, network for
open development
rolf@openforchange.info
+31617232772 @rolfkleef www.openforchange.info
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the web to help humanity. Implementing
open
data, open organisations and online collaboration in civil
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Received on Friday, 6 November 2015 17:53:17 UTC