- From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:49:57 +0000 (UTC)
- To: Sebastian Hellmann <hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, Kay Müller <kay.mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, Chris Taggart <countculture@gmail.com>, <public-lod@w3.org>, Rolf Kleef <rolf@openforchange.info>
Hi all, Organizational Identifiers are a bit dangerous for the little people to talk about :-) 1) First, some food for thought ... if FOAF identifies real people rigorously, one would think complexity less and convergence faster for many fewer organizations. That would make no sense, unless (reads manual). 2) Second, an observation ... is the "Open World" assumption an HTML ordered list or an HTML unordered list ? Who decides ? Hint: Moses had 10 Commandments, but plainly meant an unordered list. Even the most (hardened agnostic) developer should be able to admit that 10 Commandments in an unordered list and 10 Items in an ordered list is not a valid substitution pattern. Learning to love Turtle is not a resolution to this dilemma, BTW. 3) Strategy Markup Language (StratML) Collections resolve these issues by using a compound key for the <StrategicPlanCore>: a) Organization Name -> Acronym (caps of Proper Case) b) Subdivision Name -> UUID, Acronym (caps of Proper Case) c) (StratML (XML) File Name) -> (Acronym from a) DOT (Acronym from b) DOT xml This can enable styling within the Core by CSS or XSLT while maintaining Collection integrity because an OUTER JOIN on Organization Name preserves a collection of right-directed graphs. If this sounds like slavery to you, take a nap, "they" can't own your dreams ;-) --Gannon -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/5/15, Rolf Kleef <rolf@openforchange.info> wrote: Subject: Re: Are there any datasets about companies? ( DBpedia Open Data Initiative) To: "Sebastian Hellmann" <hellmann@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, "Kay Müller" <kay.mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, "Chris Taggart" <countculture@gmail.com>, public-lod@w3.org Date: Thursday, November 5, 2015, 6:49 AM Hi Sebastian, Kay, If you haven't done it yet, I suggest getting in touch with Chris Taggart of Open Corporates (cc'd). He has years of experience doing this, and is also involved in cross-standards work on "organisational identifiers", crucial in the development of for instance the Open Contracting Data Standard and the International Aid Transparancy Initiative: http://www.open-contracting.org/ http://iatistandard.org/201/organisation-identifiers/ ~~Rolf. On 03/11/15 16:17, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: > [Apologies for cross-posting] > > Dear all, > this message is part announcement of an open data initiative and part > call for feedback and support. > > We are considering to work on creating a free, open and interoperable > dataset on companies and organisations, which we are planing to > integrate into DBpedia+ and offer as dump download. As we are in a very > early phase of the endeavour, we would like to know whether there is > existing work in this area. > > We are looking for any available datasets which have information about > companies and other organizations in any language and any country. > Ideally, the datasets are: > 1. downloadable as dump > 2. openly licensed , e.g. CC-BY following the http://opendefinition.org/ > 3. in an easily parseable format, e.g. RDF or CSV and not PDF > > But hey! Send around anything you know, and we will look at it and see > whether we can make use of it. You can reach us either by replying to > this email or send feedback directly to me and Kay Müller > <kay.mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>. > If you have any private/closed data, please contact us as well. We might > make use of it to cross-reference and validate public/open data with it. > Or just learn from it to build a good scheme. > > We started a link collection here (and attached the current status at > the end of this email) > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit > Also we started to collect potential identifiers for linking here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EMqemA1BlqvyOXGLzYbvY0IcBCAhaRd5XgYLMWIxGsA/edit#gid=0 > > Regards and thank you for any support on this, > Sebastian and Kay > > ############################## > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit > > > * > > > Open Company Data > > Open Company Data > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.buuo7dypfd9a> > > Identifiers for companies/organisation > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.qs150ivpio94> > > URIs (Linked Data/Semantic Web) > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.b9yeovqjeglz> > > Downloadable Datasets with Company info (confirmed) > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.7ihxrlrypp14> > > Portals with no bulk downloads > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.a95o85lqil72> > > Portals, we will still need to investigate > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IaWSSt4_SZVhypvB1QzBlCtBuMQHv-q5Ti0n8xoZFIQ/edit#heading=h.p50bjh96q3ok> > > > > Identifiers for companies/organisation > > Table with identifiers: > > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EMqemA1BlqvyOXGLzYbvY0IcBCAhaRd5XgYLMWIxGsA/edit#gid=0>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EMqemA1BlqvyOXGLzYbvY0IcBCAhaRd5XgYLMWIxGsA/edit#gid=0 > > > URIs (Linked Data/Semantic Web) > > * > > DBpedia/Wikipedia/Wikidata URIs - <http://dbpedia.org>http://dbpedia.org > > * > > LinkedGeoData - <http://linkedgeodata.org/>http://linkedgeodata.org/ > > > DownloadableDatasets with Company info (confirmed) > > * > > VIAF - <http://viaf.org/viaf/data/>http://viaf.org/viaf/data/ > > * > > DBpedia - > <http://downloads.dbpedia.org/current/core/>http://downloads.dbpedia.org/current/core/ > > * > > Wikidata - > <http://downloads.dbpedia.org/current/ext/wikidata/>http://downloads.dbpedia.org/current/ext/wikidata/ > > * > > LinkedGeoData - > <http://downloads.linkedgeodata.org/releases/>http://downloads.linkedgeodata.org/releases/ > > * > > Company Data Index: > <http://index.okfn.org/dataset/companies/>http://index.okfn.org/dataset/companies/ > > o > > e.g. UK company data: > <http://download.companieshouse.gov.uk/en_output.html>http://download.companieshouse.gov.uk/en_output.html > > > Portals with no bulk downloads > > * > > <https://opencorporates.com/>https://opencorporates.com/ > > * > > <http://registries.opencorporates.com/>http://registries.opencorporates.com/ > > > Portals, we will still need to investigate > > > * > > <https://www.wlw.de/>https://www.wlw.de/ > > * > > <https://www.crunchbase.com>https://www.crunchbase.com > > * > > <http://data.crunchbase.com/v3/page/crunchbase-open-data-map-odm>http://data.crunchbase.com/v3/page/crunchbase-open-data-map-odm > > * > > <http://www.industrystock.de>http://www.industrystock.de > > * > > <http://www.ebr.org/>http://www.ebr.org/ > > * > > <https://simfin.com/data/browse/companies>https://simfin.com/data/browse/companies > > * > > <http://c-lei.org/>http://c-lei.org/ > > * > > <http://data.imf.org/>http://data.imf.org/ > > * > > <http://worldbank.270a.info/.html>http://worldbank.270a.info/.html > > * > > <http://datacatalog.worldbank.org/>http://datacatalog.worldbank.org/ > > * > > <http://www.europages.com/>http://www.europages.com/ > > * > > <http://www.sec.gov/data>http://www.sec.gov/data > > * > > <http://faculty.philau.edu/russowl/industry.html>http://faculty.philau.edu/russowl/industry.html > > * > > USA: http://www.corporationwiki.com/ > > * > > India: http://www.companywiki.in/ > > * > > Handelsregister: www.Handelsregister.de > > * > > Creditreform: http://www.creditsafetrial.com/de/?country=DE > > * > > Bürgel: https://www.buergel.de/en > > * > > Factiva: > https://global.factiva.com/factivalogin/login.asp?productname=global > > * > > > Interesting Links: > > * > > German > <http://get.torial.com/blog/2014/02/die-besten-quellen-fuer-wirtschaftsjournalisten-teil-1/>http://get.torial.com/blog/2014/02/die-besten-quellen-fuer-wirtschaftsjournalisten-teil-1/ > > * > > <http://get.torial.com/blog/2014/02/die-besten-quellen-fuer-wirtschaftsjournalisten-teil-2/>http://get.torial.com/blog/2014/02/die-besten-quellen-fuer-wirtschaftsjournalisten-teil-2/ > > * > > -- > Sebastian Hellmann > AKSW/KILT research group > Insitute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) at Leipzig University > DBpedia Association > Events: > * *Nov 20th, 2015* Extended Deadline for Quality Management of Semantic > Web Assets (Data, Services and Systems) > <http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/blog/call-papers-special-issue-quality-management-semantic-web-assets-data-services-and-systems> > Venha para a Alemanha como PhD: > <http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/csf>http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/csf > Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://nlp2rdf.org, > <http://linguistics.okfn.org>http://linguistics.okfn.org, > https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt <http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt> > Homepage: http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann > Research Group: http://aksw.org > Thesis: > http://tinyurl.com/sh-thesis-summary > http://tinyurl.com/sh-thesis -- Rolf Kleef Open for Change, network for open development rolf@openforchange.info +31617232772 @rolfkleef www.openforchange.info Internet trailblazer. 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