- From: Paul Houle <ontology2@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:25:43 -0400
- To: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
- Cc: Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Message-ID: <CAE__kdTX49Spsn4DhuzDVf19c_Q=8CoCaKCC8bOL=c2MWb+T9w@mail.gmail.com>
Why don't we just reorganize RDF to look like the predicate calculus, let the arity > 2, and then say it is something new so we can escape the RDF name. In fact, let's just call it "ISO Common Logic", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_logic Most of the "cool kids" weren't around in the 1980s so they don't have the bad taste in their mouth left by the predicate calculus. I don't see any problem with extending SPARQL to arity > 2 facts, we can let OWL dry and blow away. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com> wrote: > +1, nicely put Kingsley > --Gannon > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 9/19/14, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data > To: public-lod@w3.org > Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 5:48 PM > > > On 9/19/14 4:38 PM, > Brent Shambaugh > wrote: > > > > Manu Sporny's post titled "Building > Linked Data into the Core > of the Web" > > [ > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html] > led to the question: > > > is linked data and semantic web tech useful? I > think so. I > can only speak from my own perspective and > experience. > > > > Brent, > > > > Pasting my reply to Manu (with some editing) here, as I > think its > important: > > > > Manu, > > > > > It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your > post above) > to infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of > the Web. The > absolute fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been > the core of > the Web since it was an idea [1][2]. > > > > > The Web doesn't work at all if HTTP URIs aren't > names for: > > > > > [1] What exists on the Web > > > [2] What exists, period. > > > > > We just have the misfortune of poor communications > mucking up proper > comprehension of AWWW. For example, RDF should have been > presented > to the world as an effort by the W3C to standardize an > existing > aspect of the Web i.e., the ability to leverage HTTP > URIs as > mechanisms for: > > > > > 1. entity identification & naming > > > 2. entity description using sentences or statements -- > where (as is > the case re., natural language) a sentence or statement > is comprised > of a subject, predicate, and object. > > > > > Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible, > indefensible, and at > best draconian narrative that has forever tainted the > letters > "R-D-F" . And to compount matters, > "HttpRange-14" has become > censorship tool (based on its ridiculous history), that > blurs fixing > this horrible state of affairs. > > > > > Links: > > > > > [1] http://bit.ly/10Y9FL1 > -- Evidence that Linked Data was always at the core of > the Web > (excuse some instability on my personal data space > instance, at this > point in time, should you encounter issues looking up > the document > identified by this HTTP URI) > > > > > [2] > http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-wide-web-25-years-later.html > -- World Wide Web, 25 years later > > > > > [3] > http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/04/b4/79/04b4794ccf2b6fd14ed3c822be26382f.jpg > -- Illustrating identification (naming) on the Web (re., > things that > exist on or off the Web medium) . > > > > > -- > > > > -- > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com > Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com > Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen > Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen > Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about > LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this > > > > -- Paul Houle Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF (607) 539 6254 paul.houle on Skype ontology2@gmail.com http://legalentityidentifier.info/lei/lookup
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