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Re: Petitioning ISWC to allow Web friendly formats

From: Norman Gray <norman@astro.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:50:19 +0100
Cc: beyond-the-pdf@googlegroups.com, Linking Open Data <public-lod@w3.org>, SW-forum Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-Id: <999E41D9-EB9A-4BE5-AAF1-DF49A11F26C1@astro.gla.ac.uk>
To: Pascal Christoph <christoph@hbz-nrw.de>

Pascal, hello.

On 2013 May 7, at 14:30, Pascal Christoph wrote:

>> If this community really wants a 'dog food' exercise, then how about advertising, running, publishing and archiving a LOD/SW conference with NO HTML in sight at all?  There could be RDF, txt, PDF, XML with XSL and CSS, RSS, ConNeg, and every other TLA you can think of; but not the FLA.  Lots of data formats, each doing the thing they're best at on the Semantic Web of Linked Open Data, together showing that it really is true that HTML != Web.
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>> Now, _that_ would be an interesting dog-food exercise.
> 
> +1 to all of that (but whats wrong with RDFa in HTML?)

Well, because it's two FLAs, of course, and the dog-fooding is a TLA-only exercise (and before any smart-alecs say anything, 'ConNeg' is two semi-TLAs added together!).^*

Slightly more seriously, HTML+RDFa is a perfectly good format in general, but it's a concession to the idea that HTML somehow has a privileged position on the data web, and that data therefore has to be smuggled alongside it.

Linked Data on the Semantic Web will come of age when we don't have to use a jack-of-all-trades format like HTML for everything, but can instead organise a conference using whichever format (or ConNegged formats) best matches the particular use-case, so that our local devices assemble the result into the display we personally prefer, and it all Just Works.

We're still a long way away from that, I think; no dog-food for us.

All the best,

Norman

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^* OooooKay: we can allow ourselves JSON and iCal and vCard, too, but not The Tetragrammaton.


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