- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 07:59:17 -0400
- To: public-lod@w3.org
- Message-ID: <51810395.8040109@openlinksw.com>
On 5/1/13 7:35 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > > > > On 1 May 2013 13:14, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com > <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote: > > On 5/1/13 6:09 AM, Luca Matteis wrote: >> Dear Hugh, >> >> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> could feed off a >> subset of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/>, by >> re-skinning >> >> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> might simply lead >> to semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/> >> >> >> I like the strict separation between the two sites, I feel it >> should remain this way. We all agree that LOD belongs under the >> SW umbrella, but it's a small subset of SW, so definitely needs >> its own contextual domain. The separation needs to be made clear >> for newcomers, so mashing these two domains together isn't going >> to help them. >> >> I wonder if this could be our chance to really shine and show off >> the benefits behind LOD. I agree with Kingsley and Jürgen that >> linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> should be powered by the >> LOD cloud itself. I am just not sure I understand all the jargon >> they are throwing at it, but it feels like the right way. >> >> Luca > > Luca, > > Our jargon boils down to having a place, with access controls, > that for all intents and purposes serves as a document repository. > Deposited documents will be comprised of Linked Data oriented > content. In some cases, the repository will be able to automate > metadata generation for the deposited documents. This organic > point of presence will simply expose lots or relevant data, > serendipitously. > > Adding tools like MediaWiki plus its Semantic MediaWiki extensions > will help. > > For instance, Hugh made reference to semanticweb.org > <http://semanticweb.org> which is driven by MediaWiki plus the > Semantic MediaWiki extensions, thus you can use the following > pattern to access Linked Data: > > http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/{WikiWord}. > > Example: > <http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer> > <http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer> > . > > Linked Data Browser Pages for the above: > > 1. > http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer > 2. http://bit.ly/YdsjuW -- faceted browser view driven by the data > automatically generated by Semantic MediaWiki. > > That said, I anticipate an even simpler system from Steph based on > WebID which basically turns linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> > into a Data Wiki. > > > Maybe drupal 7 + the drupal webid plugin is the way to go? I am assuming Steph will start there :-) Kingsley > > > Kingsley > >> >> >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk >> <mailto:hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote: >> >> Question: >> What should be the relationship with http://semanticweb.org? >> >> It seems to me that there will always be a big overlap, >> certainly for tools, etc. >> In fact, is there anything that would go on linkeddata.org >> <http://linkeddata.org> that couldn't also usefully be on >> semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>? >> If that is true, then fragmenting the sources of information >> for newcomers and others is not a good thing to do. >> And doubling the work that a contributor has to do is not >> good either. >> >> If we tried to do some amalgamation: >> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> could feed off a >> subset of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>, by >> re-skinning >> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> might simply lead to >> semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org> >> o There might be clever technology, using tagging etc to do >> something more sophisticated >> >> (I am reminded of the BBC choosing to contribute to >> MusicBrainz instead of trying to maintain its own KB.) >> >> Also I have been trying to find out who (if anyone) is >> currently able to make a little change to the >> http://data.semanticweb.org publishing - can anyone remind me >> where we are at the moment please? >> >> Best >> Hugh >> >> On 30 Apr 2013, at 15:39, Tom Heath <tom.heath@theodi.org >> <mailto:tom.heath@theodi.org>> wrote: >> >> > Hi Yury, Luca, all, >> > >> > There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with >> > Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the >> site (and >> > now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane! >> > >> > You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many >> times before, >> > I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the >> > greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed, >> though they >> > have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for >> how to >> > actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history >> shows I'm >> > too busy right now to participate regularly :( >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Tom. >> > >> > >> > On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com >> <mailto:katkov.juriy@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that >> the diagram is not >> >> developing as well: it is the most common Power Point >> slide in every >> >> Semantic Web-related presentation :) >> >> ----- >> >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis >> <lmatteis@gmail.com <mailto:lmatteis@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hello, >> >>> >> >>> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a >> bit more open & >> >>> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit >> outdated. For >> >>> example, the Research page only contains content from >> 2009. I think a >> >>> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to >> G+, Twitter and IRC >> >>> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and >> conferences around >> >>> LOD. >> >>> >> >>> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's >> many people who >> >>> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit >> overwhelming to have to >> >>> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website. >> >>> >> >>> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we >> can discuss about a >> >>> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)? >> >>> >> >>> Let me know what you think! >> >>> >> >>> Luca >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr Tom Heath >> > Data Scientist >> > Open Data Institute >> > http://theodi.org/ >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Company Web:http://www.openlinksw.com > Personal Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen> > Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen > Google+ Profile:https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about > LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > > > > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
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