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Re: Outdated linkeddata.org website

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 07:59:17 -0400
Message-ID: <51810395.8040109@openlinksw.com>
To: public-lod@w3.org
On 5/1/13 7:35 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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> On 1 May 2013 13:14, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com 
> <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
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>     On 5/1/13 6:09 AM, Luca Matteis wrote:
>>     Dear Hugh,
>>
>>         o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> could feed off a
>>         subset of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/>, by
>>         re-skinning
>>
>>         o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> might simply lead
>>         to semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/> 
>>
>>
>>     I like the strict separation between the two sites, I feel it
>>     should remain this way. We all agree that LOD belongs under the
>>     SW umbrella, but it's a small subset of SW, so definitely needs
>>     its own contextual domain. The separation needs to be made clear
>>     for newcomers, so mashing these two domains together isn't going
>>     to help them.
>>
>>     I wonder if this could be our chance to really shine and show off
>>     the benefits behind LOD. I agree with Kingsley and Jürgen that
>>     linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> should be powered by the
>>     LOD cloud itself. I am just not sure I understand all the jargon
>>     they are throwing at it, but it feels like the right way.
>>
>>     Luca
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>     Luca,
>
>     Our jargon boils down to having a place, with access controls,
>     that for all intents and purposes serves as a document repository.
>     Deposited documents will be comprised of Linked Data oriented
>     content. In some cases, the repository will be able to automate
>     metadata generation for the deposited documents. This organic
>     point of presence will simply expose lots or relevant data,
>     serendipitously.
>
>     Adding tools like MediaWiki plus its Semantic MediaWiki extensions
>     will help.
>
>     For instance, Hugh made reference to semanticweb.org
>     <http://semanticweb.org> which is driven by MediaWiki plus the
>     Semantic MediaWiki extensions, thus you can use the following
>     pattern to access Linked Data:
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>     http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/{WikiWord}.
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>     Example:
>     <http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer>
>     <http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer>
>     .
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>     Linked Data Browser Pages for the above:
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>     1.
>     http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer
>     2. http://bit.ly/YdsjuW -- faceted browser view driven by the data
>     automatically generated by Semantic MediaWiki.
>
>     That said, I anticipate an even simpler system from Steph based on
>     WebID which basically turns linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org>
>     into a Data Wiki.
>
>
> Maybe drupal 7 + the drupal webid plugin is the way to go?

I am assuming Steph will start there :-)

Kingsley
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>     Kingsley
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>>     On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>>     <mailto:hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
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>>         Question:
>>         What should be the relationship with http://semanticweb.org?
>>
>>         It seems to me that there will always be a big overlap,
>>         certainly for tools, etc.
>>         In fact, is there anything that would go on linkeddata.org
>>         <http://linkeddata.org> that couldn't also usefully be on
>>         semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>?
>>         If that is true, then fragmenting the sources of information
>>         for newcomers and others is not a good thing to do.
>>         And doubling the work that a contributor has to do is not
>>         good either.
>>
>>         If we tried to do some amalgamation:
>>         o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> could feed off a
>>         subset of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>, by
>>         re-skinning
>>         o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> might simply lead to
>>         semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>
>>         o There might be clever technology, using tagging etc to do
>>         something more sophisticated
>>
>>         (I am reminded of the BBC choosing to contribute to
>>         MusicBrainz instead of trying to maintain its own KB.)
>>
>>         Also I have been trying to find out who (if anyone) is
>>         currently able to make a little change to the
>>         http://data.semanticweb.org publishing - can anyone remind me
>>         where we are at the moment please?
>>
>>         Best
>>         Hugh
>>
>>         On 30 Apr 2013, at 15:39, Tom Heath <tom.heath@theodi.org
>>         <mailto:tom.heath@theodi.org>> wrote:
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>>         > Hi Yury, Luca, all,
>>         >
>>         > There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with
>>         > Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the
>>         site (and
>>         > now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane!
>>         >
>>         > You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many
>>         times before,
>>         > I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the
>>         > greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed,
>>         though they
>>         > have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for
>>         how to
>>         > actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history
>>         shows I'm
>>         > too busy right now to participate regularly :(
>>         >
>>         > Cheers,
>>         >
>>         > Tom.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com
>>         <mailto:katkov.juriy@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >> It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that
>>         the diagram is not
>>         >> developing as well: it is the most common Power Point
>>         slide in every
>>         >> Semantic Web-related presentation :)
>>         >> -----
>>         >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis
>>         <lmatteis@gmail.com <mailto:lmatteis@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >>>
>>         >>> Hello,
>>         >>>
>>         >>> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a
>>         bit more open &
>>         >>> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit
>>         outdated. For
>>         >>> example, the Research page only contains content from
>>         2009. I think a
>>         >>> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to
>>         G+, Twitter and IRC
>>         >>> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and
>>         conferences around
>>         >>> LOD.
>>         >>>
>>         >>> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's
>>         many people who
>>         >>> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit
>>         overwhelming to have to
>>         >>> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website.
>>         >>>
>>         >>> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we
>>         can discuss about a
>>         >>> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)?
>>         >>>
>>         >>> Let me know what you think!
>>         >>>
>>         >>> Luca
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > --
>>         > Dr Tom Heath
>>         > Data Scientist
>>         > Open Data Institute
>>         > http://theodi.org/
>>         >
>>         >
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