- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 07:59:17 -0400
- To: public-lod@w3.org
- Message-ID: <51810395.8040109@openlinksw.com>
On 5/1/13 7:35 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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> On 1 May 2013 13:14, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com
> <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
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> On 5/1/13 6:09 AM, Luca Matteis wrote:
>> Dear Hugh,
>>
>> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> could feed off a
>> subset of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/>, by
>> re-skinning
>>
>> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> might simply lead
>> to semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/>
>>
>>
>> I like the strict separation between the two sites, I feel it
>> should remain this way. We all agree that LOD belongs under the
>> SW umbrella, but it's a small subset of SW, so definitely needs
>> its own contextual domain. The separation needs to be made clear
>> for newcomers, so mashing these two domains together isn't going
>> to help them.
>>
>> I wonder if this could be our chance to really shine and show off
>> the benefits behind LOD. I agree with Kingsley and Jürgen that
>> linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> should be powered by the
>> LOD cloud itself. I am just not sure I understand all the jargon
>> they are throwing at it, but it feels like the right way.
>>
>> Luca
>
> Luca,
>
> Our jargon boils down to having a place, with access controls,
> that for all intents and purposes serves as a document repository.
> Deposited documents will be comprised of Linked Data oriented
> content. In some cases, the repository will be able to automate
> metadata generation for the deposited documents. This organic
> point of presence will simply expose lots or relevant data,
> serendipitously.
>
> Adding tools like MediaWiki plus its Semantic MediaWiki extensions
> will help.
>
> For instance, Hugh made reference to semanticweb.org
> <http://semanticweb.org> which is driven by MediaWiki plus the
> Semantic MediaWiki extensions, thus you can use the following
> pattern to access Linked Data:
>
> http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/{WikiWord}.
>
> Example:
> <http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer>
> <http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer>
> .
>
> Linked Data Browser Pages for the above:
>
> 1.
> http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer
> 2. http://bit.ly/YdsjuW -- faceted browser view driven by the data
> automatically generated by Semantic MediaWiki.
>
> That said, I anticipate an even simpler system from Steph based on
> WebID which basically turns linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org>
> into a Data Wiki.
>
>
> Maybe drupal 7 + the drupal webid plugin is the way to go?
I am assuming Steph will start there :-)
Kingsley
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>
> Kingsley
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>> <mailto:hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Question:
>> What should be the relationship with http://semanticweb.org?
>>
>> It seems to me that there will always be a big overlap,
>> certainly for tools, etc.
>> In fact, is there anything that would go on linkeddata.org
>> <http://linkeddata.org> that couldn't also usefully be on
>> semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>?
>> If that is true, then fragmenting the sources of information
>> for newcomers and others is not a good thing to do.
>> And doubling the work that a contributor has to do is not
>> good either.
>>
>> If we tried to do some amalgamation:
>> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> could feed off a
>> subset of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>, by
>> re-skinning
>> o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> might simply lead to
>> semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>
>> o There might be clever technology, using tagging etc to do
>> something more sophisticated
>>
>> (I am reminded of the BBC choosing to contribute to
>> MusicBrainz instead of trying to maintain its own KB.)
>>
>> Also I have been trying to find out who (if anyone) is
>> currently able to make a little change to the
>> http://data.semanticweb.org publishing - can anyone remind me
>> where we are at the moment please?
>>
>> Best
>> Hugh
>>
>> On 30 Apr 2013, at 15:39, Tom Heath <tom.heath@theodi.org
>> <mailto:tom.heath@theodi.org>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Yury, Luca, all,
>> >
>> > There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with
>> > Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the
>> site (and
>> > now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane!
>> >
>> > You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many
>> times before,
>> > I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the
>> > greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed,
>> though they
>> > have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for
>> how to
>> > actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history
>> shows I'm
>> > too busy right now to participate regularly :(
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Tom.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com
>> <mailto:katkov.juriy@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that
>> the diagram is not
>> >> developing as well: it is the most common Power Point
>> slide in every
>> >> Semantic Web-related presentation :)
>> >> -----
>> >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis
>> <lmatteis@gmail.com <mailto:lmatteis@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a
>> bit more open &
>> >>> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit
>> outdated. For
>> >>> example, the Research page only contains content from
>> 2009. I think a
>> >>> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to
>> G+, Twitter and IRC
>> >>> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and
>> conferences around
>> >>> LOD.
>> >>>
>> >>> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's
>> many people who
>> >>> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit
>> overwhelming to have to
>> >>> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we
>> can discuss about a
>> >>> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)?
>> >>>
>> >>> Let me know what you think!
>> >>>
>> >>> Luca
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dr Tom Heath
>> > Data Scientist
>> > Open Data Institute
>> > http://theodi.org/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Kingsley Idehen
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