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Re: Outdated linkeddata.org website

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 13:35:57 +0200
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhL9h84Z0ZbCwUrAu+kZiMCdSSWYLXHAMBisKN-wEX1Bqg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>
On 1 May 2013 13:14, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:

>  On 5/1/13 6:09 AM, Luca Matteis wrote:
>
> Dear Hugh,
>
>  o linkeddata.org could feed off a subset of semanticweb.org, by
>> re-skinning
>
> o linkeddata.org might simply lead to semanticweb.org
>
>
>  I like the strict separation between the two sites, I feel it should
> remain this way. We all agree that LOD belongs under the SW umbrella, but
> it's a small subset of SW, so definitely needs its own contextual domain.
> The separation needs to be made clear for newcomers, so mashing these two
> domains together isn't going to help them.
>
>  I wonder if this could be our chance to really shine and show off the
> benefits behind LOD. I agree with Kingsley and Jürgen that linkeddata.orgshould be powered by the LOD cloud itself. I am just not sure I understand
> all the jargon they are throwing at it, but it feels like the right way.
>
>  Luca
>
>
> Luca,
>
> Our jargon boils down to having a place, with access controls, that for
> all intents and purposes serves as a document repository. Deposited
> documents will be comprised of Linked Data oriented content. In some cases,
> the repository will be able to automate metadata generation for the
> deposited documents. This organic point of presence will simply expose lots
> or relevant data, serendipitously.
>
> Adding tools like MediaWiki plus its Semantic MediaWiki extensions will
> help.
>
> For instance, Hugh made reference to semanticweb.org which is driven by
> MediaWiki plus the Semantic MediaWiki extensions, thus you can use the
> following pattern to access Linked Data:
>
> http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/{WikiWord}.
>
> Example:
> <http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer><http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer>.
>
> Linked Data Browser Pages for the above:
>
> 1.
> http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer
> 2. http://bit.ly/YdsjuW -- faceted browser view driven by the data
> automatically generated by Semantic MediaWiki.
>
> That said, I anticipate an even simpler system from Steph based on WebID
> which basically turns linkeddata.org into a Data Wiki.
>

Maybe drupal 7 + the drupal webid plugin is the way to go?


>
> Kingsley
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Question:
>> What should be the relationship with http://semanticweb.org?
>>
>> It seems to me that there will always be a big overlap, certainly for
>> tools, etc.
>> In fact, is there anything that would go on linkeddata.org that couldn't
>> also usefully be on semanticweb.org?
>> If that is true, then fragmenting the sources of information for
>> newcomers and others is not a good thing to do.
>> And doubling the work that a contributor has to do is not good either.
>>
>> If we tried to do some amalgamation:
>> o linkeddata.org could feed off a subset of semanticweb.org, by
>> re-skinning
>> o linkeddata.org might simply lead to semanticweb.org
>> o There might be clever technology, using tagging etc to do something
>> more sophisticated
>>
>> (I am reminded of the BBC choosing to contribute to MusicBrainz instead
>> of trying to maintain its own KB.)
>>
>> Also I have been trying to find out who (if anyone) is currently able to
>> make a little change to the http://data.semanticweb.org publishing - can
>> anyone remind me where we are at the moment please?
>>
>> Best
>> Hugh
>>
>> On 30 Apr 2013, at 15:39, Tom Heath <tom.heath@theodi.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Yury, Luca, all,
>> >
>> > There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with
>> > Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the site (and
>> > now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane!
>> >
>> > You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many times before,
>> > I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the
>> > greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed, though they
>> > have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for how to
>> > actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history shows I'm
>> > too busy right now to participate regularly :(
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Tom.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that the diagram
>> is not
>> >> developing as well: it is the most common Power Point slide in every
>> >> Semantic Web-related presentation :)
>> >> -----
>> >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis <lmatteis@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a bit more
>> open &
>> >>> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit outdated. For
>> >>> example, the Research page only contains content from 2009. I think a
>> >>> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to G+, Twitter
>> and IRC
>> >>> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and conferences
>> around
>> >>> LOD.
>> >>>
>> >>> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's many people
>> who
>> >>> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit overwhelming to
>> have to
>> >>> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we can discuss
>> about a
>> >>> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)?
>> >>>
>> >>> Let me know what you think!
>> >>>
>> >>> Luca
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dr Tom Heath
>> > Data Scientist
>> > Open Data Institute
>> > http://theodi.org/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
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