- From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 13:35:57 +0200
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKaEYhL9h84Z0ZbCwUrAu+kZiMCdSSWYLXHAMBisKN-wEX1Bqg@mail.gmail.com>
On 1 May 2013 13:14, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote: > On 5/1/13 6:09 AM, Luca Matteis wrote: > > Dear Hugh, > > o linkeddata.org could feed off a subset of semanticweb.org, by >> re-skinning > > o linkeddata.org might simply lead to semanticweb.org > > > I like the strict separation between the two sites, I feel it should > remain this way. We all agree that LOD belongs under the SW umbrella, but > it's a small subset of SW, so definitely needs its own contextual domain. > The separation needs to be made clear for newcomers, so mashing these two > domains together isn't going to help them. > > I wonder if this could be our chance to really shine and show off the > benefits behind LOD. I agree with Kingsley and Jürgen that linkeddata.orgshould be powered by the LOD cloud itself. I am just not sure I understand > all the jargon they are throwing at it, but it feels like the right way. > > Luca > > > Luca, > > Our jargon boils down to having a place, with access controls, that for > all intents and purposes serves as a document repository. Deposited > documents will be comprised of Linked Data oriented content. In some cases, > the repository will be able to automate metadata generation for the > deposited documents. This organic point of presence will simply expose lots > or relevant data, serendipitously. > > Adding tools like MediaWiki plus its Semantic MediaWiki extensions will > help. > > For instance, Hugh made reference to semanticweb.org which is driven by > MediaWiki plus the Semantic MediaWiki extensions, thus you can use the > following pattern to access Linked Data: > > http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/{WikiWord}. > > Example: > <http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer><http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer>. > > Linked Data Browser Pages for the above: > > 1. > http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/OpenLink_Data_Explorer > 2. http://bit.ly/YdsjuW -- faceted browser view driven by the data > automatically generated by Semantic MediaWiki. > > That said, I anticipate an even simpler system from Steph based on WebID > which basically turns linkeddata.org into a Data Wiki. > Maybe drupal 7 + the drupal webid plugin is the way to go? > > Kingsley > > > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > >> Question: >> What should be the relationship with http://semanticweb.org? >> >> It seems to me that there will always be a big overlap, certainly for >> tools, etc. >> In fact, is there anything that would go on linkeddata.org that couldn't >> also usefully be on semanticweb.org? >> If that is true, then fragmenting the sources of information for >> newcomers and others is not a good thing to do. >> And doubling the work that a contributor has to do is not good either. >> >> If we tried to do some amalgamation: >> o linkeddata.org could feed off a subset of semanticweb.org, by >> re-skinning >> o linkeddata.org might simply lead to semanticweb.org >> o There might be clever technology, using tagging etc to do something >> more sophisticated >> >> (I am reminded of the BBC choosing to contribute to MusicBrainz instead >> of trying to maintain its own KB.) >> >> Also I have been trying to find out who (if anyone) is currently able to >> make a little change to the http://data.semanticweb.org publishing - can >> anyone remind me where we are at the moment please? >> >> Best >> Hugh >> >> On 30 Apr 2013, at 15:39, Tom Heath <tom.heath@theodi.org> wrote: >> >> > Hi Yury, Luca, all, >> > >> > There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with >> > Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the site (and >> > now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane! >> > >> > You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many times before, >> > I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the >> > greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed, though they >> > have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for how to >> > actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history shows I'm >> > too busy right now to participate regularly :( >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Tom. >> > >> > >> > On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that the diagram >> is not >> >> developing as well: it is the most common Power Point slide in every >> >> Semantic Web-related presentation :) >> >> ----- >> >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis <lmatteis@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hello, >> >>> >> >>> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a bit more >> open & >> >>> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit outdated. For >> >>> example, the Research page only contains content from 2009. I think a >> >>> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to G+, Twitter >> and IRC >> >>> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and conferences >> around >> >>> LOD. >> >>> >> >>> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's many people >> who >> >>> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit overwhelming to >> have to >> >>> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website. >> >>> >> >>> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we can discuss >> about a >> >>> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)? >> >>> >> >>> Let me know what you think! >> >>> >> >>> Luca >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr Tom Heath >> > Data Scientist >> > Open Data Institute >> > http://theodi.org/ >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com > Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen > Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen > Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about > LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > > > >
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