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Re: URLs in Data Working Draft

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 15:13:46 -0400
Message-ID: <51E0556A.2030401@openlinksw.com>
To: public-lod@w3.org
On 7/12/13 2:22 PM, Larry Masinter wrote:
>
> My preference is to say that http://larry.masinter.net merely 
> identifies the use the HTTP protocol to the host named 
> "larry.masinter.net", and that any other identification is in the eye 
> of the beholder and a matter of convention in context of use.
>
>

Basically, it denotes a point of presence on a network. Basically, since 
you own the name, you control its referent.

If I get specific about the network, for instance assuming HTTP, the 
output curl gives me:
curl -I http://larry.masinter.net
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 19:01:31 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu)
Last-Modified: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:44:40 GMT
ETag: "21c80e0-6d8d-4d486bdb05a00"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 28045
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Type: text/html

Thus, (sticking with my HTTP context lenses, I can also safely assume 
that <http://larry.masinter.net> denotes a document comprised of HTML 
based content.

Finally, TAG has basically asked the RDFers to keep RDF semantics in the 
RDF box, which is really where it should have always been i.e., an RDF 
processor should understand RDF semantics. The purpose of RDF (if I 
recall) was to achieve specificity via explicit machine- and 
human-comprehensible entity relationship semantics etc..

As the ad goes, it isn't complicated :-)

Kingsley
>
> *From:*Melvin Carvalho [mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com]
> *Sent**:* Friday, July 12, 2013 8:34 AM
> *To:* Larry Masinter
> *Cc:* David Booth; David Wood; Uche Ogbuji; Jeni Tennison; public-lod; 
> www-tag@w3.org List
> *Subject:* Re: URLs in Data Working Draft
>
> On 12 July 2013 17:03, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com 
> <mailto:masinter@adobe.com>> wrote:
>
> Re Angels and Pins:
>
> http://masinter.blogspot.com/2010/03/resources-are-angels-urls-are-pins.html
>
> Larry, thanks for sharing, I enjoyed reading that.  Re:
>
> [[
>
> is "http://larry.masinter.net" an identifier for me or for my web page?
>
> ...
>
> any kind of reference is naturally ambiguous
>
> ]]
>
> Do you have a preference on this choice?
>


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