- From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:33:33 -0500
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: public-lod@w3.org
Kingsley OK, I get it. Yes, we can add this. Thanks for the feedback. Pat On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 4/30/13 11:28 AM, Pat Hayes wrote: >> Hi KIngsley >> >> Where would you suggest putting the rdfs:isDefinedBy links? If they are in the ontology, then presumably by the time you read them you already know which ontology you are looking at, no? > Pat, > > The benefit of these relations is all about the follow-your-nose aspect of Linked Data. Basically, in a typical Linked Data oriented description page, I end up being only click away from pivoting back to the main ontology and then out to some other class or property description. > > I've added the missing relations to my local copy of the ontology using SPARQL 1.1. Now I have a document [1] which shows the desired effect. > > > Links: > > 1. http://kingsley.idehen.net/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fnet%2Flio%23depicts -- shows rdfs:isDefinedBy and its inverse providing pivot points back to the main ontology description page > > 2. http://kingsley.idehen.net/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fnet%2Flio -- main ontology page exposing the classes and properties defined by the ontology. > > > > Kingsley >> >> Pat >> >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: >> >>> On 4/29/13 6:18 PM, Margaret Warren wrote: >>>> Hello Yusniel, >>>> >>>> Pat Hayes and I have published a paper related to the small lightweight >>>> ontology that >>>> we use for describing the images within the application, though we have now >>>> deviated somewhat from some of our initial thoughts described in that paper. >>>> >>>> >>>> I could still send you a link if this is the kind of information you are >>>> interested in. >>>> >>>> If not, perhaps I could try to answer more specific questions about the >>>> project. >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Margaret Warren >>> Some links documents that describe the ontology in question: >>> >>> 1. http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/www.imagesnippets.com/lio/lio.owl >>> 2. http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/describe/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imagesnippets.com%2Flio%2Flio.owl >>> 3. http://www.imagesnippets.com/lio/lio.owl >>> >>> Margaret: >>> >>> You could enhance the ontology further (esp. for Linked Data followy-your-nose style exploration) by adding rdfs:isDefinedBy relations that associate the ontology with the classes and properties that it defines. >>> >>> Kingsley >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Yusniel Hidalgo Delgado [mailto:yhdelgado@uci.cu] >>>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:14 AM >>>> To: Michael Brunnbauer >>>> Cc: public-lod@w3.org >>>> Subject: Re: invitation to try ImageSnippets >>>> >>>> Hello Michael, >>>> >>>> I have a question about the project. Where we can find a published paper or >>>> demo related to the project that show technical decisions taken and >>>> architecture? >>>> >>>> Best regards. >>>> >>>> Prof. Yusniel Hidalgo Delgado >>>> University of Informatics Sciences >>>> http://www.uci.cu/ >>>> Havana, Cuba >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Mensaje original ----- >>>> | De: "Michael Brunnbauer" <brunni@netestate.de> >>>> | Para: "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> >>>> | CC: public-lod@w3.org >>>> | Enviados: Lunes, 29 de Abril 2013 9:45:20 >>>> | Asunto: Re: invitation to try ImageSnippets >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | Hello Kingsley, >>>> | >>>> | I work on that project and will answer your questions. >>>> | >>>> | On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 01:53:09PM -0400, Kingsley Idehen wrote: >>>> | > 1. What is the URL of your SPARQL endpoint? -- I ask because the >>>> | > results in your SPARQL query form don't expose the actual SPARQL >>>> | > service endpoint thereby not allowing me to access data using the >>>> | > SPARQL-Protocol URL patterns. >>>> | >>>> | The SPARQL endpoint with triples has the URL >>>> | >>>> | http://www.imagesnippets.com/sparql/images >>>> | >>>> | and is updated once per day. >>>> | >>>> | The "always current" version with quads has the URL >>>> | >>>> | http://www.imagesnippets.com/sparql/dbpedia >>>> | >>>> | and uses the image URLs as named graph URIs (the default graph is a >>>> | copy of DPpedia for technical reasons). >>>> | >>>> | > 2. Are you exposing 5-star Linked Data URIs via this service? -- I >>>> | > ask because I took a random URI (plus one for an image I annotated) >>>> | > from your sample SPARQL query and passed it through the Vapour >>>> | > Linked Data URI verifier, without successful results [1][2]. >>>> | > >>>> | > I ask the question above because you are minting URIs that denote >>>> | > entities in a domain controlled by your app/service. Thus, you do >>>> | > have the ability to put content negotiation to use by virtue of your >>>> | > URI pattern choices. By that I mean, your content negotiation can be >>>> | > explicit (using HTTP response metadata) or implicit (hash based >>>> | > HTTP URIs give you that). >>>> | > >>>> | > For instance, I was able to figure out that by substituting ".png" >>>> | > with >>>> | > ".html" in the URIs generated by your service is how I get to an >>>> | > (X)HTML+RDFa document that exposes the RDF metadata for the image I >>>> | > uploaded and annotated [3]. I successfully passed the document >>>> | > through the W3C RDFa distiller to get a Turtle based description >>>> | > document [4]. >>>> | >>>> | Let me be sure I understand you: You took the image URLs and expected >>>> | something else than an image to be served at those URLs ? Perhaps a >>>> | 303 to the (X)HTML+ RDFa document when such a content type is >>>> | requested ? Wouldn't a "Link:" HTTP header with rel=meta be better ? >>>> | >>>> | Regards, >>>> | >>>> | Michael Brunnbauer >>>> | >>>> | > 1. >>>> | > http://uriburner.com:8000/vapour?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imagesnippets. >>>> | > com%2Fimgtag%2Fimages%2Fmm%40carmapro.com%2FP1010996.JPG&defaultResp >>>> | > onse=dontmind&userAgent=vapour.sourceforge.net >>>> | > -- vapour report on a sample URI >>>> | > >>>> | > 2. >>>> | > http://uriburner.com:8000/vapour?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imagesnippets. >>>> | > com%2Fimgtag%2Fimages%2Fkidehen%40openlinksw.com%2FLinked_Data_Semio >>>> | > tic_Triangle.png&defaultResponse=dontmind&userAgent=vapour.sourcefor >>>> | > ge.net >>>> | > >>>> | > 3. >>>> | > http://www.imagesnippets.com/imgtag/images/kidehen@openlinksw.com/Li >>>> | > nked_Data_Semiotic_Triangle.html >>>> | > >>>> | > 4. >>>> | > http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.images >>>> | > nippets.com%2Fimgtag%2Fimages%2Fkidehen%40openlinksw.com%2FLinked_Da >>>> | > ta_Semiotic_Triangle.html&format=turtle&warnings=false&parser=lax&sp >>>> | > ace-preserve=true >>>> | >>>> | -- >>>> | ++ Michael Brunnbauer >>>> | ++ netEstate GmbH >>>> | ++ Geisenhausener Straße 11a >>>> | ++ 81379 München >>>> | ++ Tel +49 89 32 19 77 80 >>>> | ++ Fax +49 89 32 19 77 89 >>>> | ++ E-Mail brunni@netestate.de >>>> | ++ http://www.netestate.de/ >>>> | ++ >>>> | ++ Sitz: München, HRB Nr.142452 (Handelsregister B München) >>>> | ++ USt-IdNr. 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