Re: Linked Data Book in Early Access Release

On 12/5/12 9:39 AM, Sarven Capadisli wrote:
> On 12/05/2012 03:15 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 5 December 2012 14:56, David Wood <david@3roundstones.com
>> <mailto:david@3roundstones.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On Dec 5, 2012, at 08:46, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com
>>     <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>>
>>      > On 12/5/12 7:55 AM, David Wood wrote:
>>      >> On Dec 5, 2012, at 06:34, Chris Beer<chris@codex.net.au
>>     <mailto:chris@codex.net.au>>  wrote:
>>      >>
>>      >>> ><snip>
>>      >>> >
>>      >>>>> >>>http://www.manning.com/dwood/  itself doesn't seam to have
>>     any Linked Data
>>      >>>>> >>>to consume;)
>>      >>> >
>>      >>> >Makes sense to me - if you know enough to look for LD
>>     resources at the
>>      >>> >manning.com/dwood/ <http://manning.com/dwood/> URI, you've
>>     just self evaluated that you probably don't
>>      >>> >need the book! :P
>>      >> I agree - and have been speaking with Manning about this.
>>       Unfortunately, I haven't made any progress yet.  I'll keep trying!
>>      >>
>>      >> Thanks for the mail.  Perhaps I can use it as proof to Manning
>>     that people do want LD on their site.
>>      >>
>>      >> Regards,
>>      >> Dave
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      > Dave,
>>      >
>>      > They have to understand that its sorta contradictory if they need
>>     to be convinced of this matter :-)
>>
>>     Oh, I see your point and have made it myself. Unfortunately,
>>     economics seems to be dictating otherwise to them for right or 
>> wrong.
>>
>>     The only productive suggestion that has been made to me is to put up
>>     a parallel site for the book that includes LD.  Michael Hausenblas
>>     has offered the domain linkeddatadeveloper.com
>>     <http://linkeddatadeveloper.com>, which was his original site for
>>     the book but has fallen into disuse.  Of course, I would need to be
>>     willing to pay for the site and take the time to operate it.
>>
>>     Would the community find that a useful thing to do?  I am willing to
>>     go to the effort if I receive a good number of positive responses.
>>
>>
>> In (I think the preface) to "Weaving the Web", Tim wrote something like,
>> "The next one will be online, I promise"
>>
>> The dream of linked data has always been to be a collaborative space to
>> both read and write to.
>>
>> If it were feasible to dogfood such an endeavour, I think the dream of
>> linked data could be close to reality.
>>
>> I wonder if we're close enough yet for this to be practical?
>>
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Dave
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> It is most certainly feasible to dogfood LD. The problem is in twofold:
>
> * laziness
> * obedience
>
> My major issue is with the self-proclaimed international (semantic) 
> web conferences, requesting works to be submitted in PDF. Shall we 
> talk about hypocrisy?
>
> If you are a student, conference chair, reviewer or whatever.. reading 
> this, yea, you might want to reconsider:
>
> * obedience
> * laziness
>
> Publishers have you by the..
>
> No? Okay. :)
>
> It is precisely that reason I will first publish my work on my site 
> (re: thesis), second try to meet the guidelines of the conference.
>
> Anything else is an excuse in my humble opinion.
>
> </rant>
>
> -Sarven
>
>
>
+1

Those PDFs are other failures to dog-food are  counter-intuitive excuses 
since the net effect on Linked Data is supposed to be making webby 
structured data accessible, discoverable, and exploitable.

Dogfooding is the only way to effectively broaden the comprehension, 
acceptance, and exploitation of Linked Data.

PDF == Paper Description Format :-)

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