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Re: Using Facebook Data Objects to illuminate Linked Data add-on re. structured data

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:28:17 +0100
Message-ID: <4DF9DAC1.60901@openlinksw.com>
To: public-lod@w3.org
On 6/16/11 4:41 AM, Joe Presbrey wrote:
> ...reviewing my Facebook acl:agent in my personal WACL:
> http://presbrey.data.fm/.meta#me
>
> http://uriburner.com/describe/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpresbrey.data.fm%2F.meta%23me
> seems to beg Facebook Graph sponger ;)

Yes, but that's a URL (Address) for an HTML resource that delivers FYN 
via Web Page style presentation. You're actual Name remains: 
http://presbrey.data.fm/.meta#me . Note the @href associated with 
"About: http://presbrey.data.fm/.meta#me ", or click on the link.
> Adding hash keys do not exist (and/or aren't supported) at upstream
> sources, changing/masking hosts, or otherwise *mangling* the URIs to
> the data breaks the link of Linked Data.

See comment above, also look at the URI debugger output to see what the 
Sponger is generating [1].
> URIs must be dereferencable to the actual data to work efficiently and durably.

Yes, as per comments above.
> Its high time to handle application/json (even Facebook!), link our
> data, and share our libraries!

Facebook will do it once opportunity cost is palpable. Ditto everyone 
else, in the mean time we have use patterns like: owl:shameAs to coax 
them into what's inevitably coming next.

Links:

1. 
http://linkeddata.informatik.hu-berlin.de/uridbg/index.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Furiburner.com%2Fdescribe%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fpresbrey.data.fm%252F.meta%2523me&useragentheader=&acceptheader= 
-- deconstructing a Sponger generated resource and its associated metadata


Kingsley
> --
> Joe Presbrey
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Kingsley Idehen<kidehen@openlinksw.com>  wrote:
>> On 6/15/11 2:14 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>> Chatted with Joe and Nathan about this some time back.
>>>
>>> I think there as an argument that said you can get away with not using
>>> the #this ... ill try and dig up the notes if you would like a pointer
>> Not in my data space re. Facebook URLs :-)
>>
>> http://graph.facebook.com/605980750#this -- a Person Entity Name via HTTP
>> URI in my data space
>> http://graph.facebook.com/605980750 -- JSON based structured data from FB
>> associated with the URI above.
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>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley Idehen
>> President&    CEO
>> OpenLink Software
>> Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>> Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	
President&  CEO
OpenLink Software
Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
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