RE: PRISM data on the LOD cloud?

Thanks for your links, Kingsley. I easily discovered hundreds of resources using PRISM predicates within the LOD cloud. Mostly deriving from RSS feeds from academic publishers, as Tony Hammond suggested below.

So question well answered.

Regards,
Constantine

-----Original Message-----
From: Kingsley Idehen [mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:44 AM
To: Hondros, Constantine
Cc: Hammond, Tony; public-lod@w3.org
Subject: Re: PRISM data on the LOD cloud?

Hondros, Constantine wrote:
> Thanks,
>   

Hondros,

> I am always looking out for datasets that will make management sit up and take notice of the LOD cloud (my organisation is a *large* global publisher). 

Ditto!
> UK and US government datasets have raised awareness that something is happening, but there's nothing like seeing the competition getting involved while you dally in the wings.
>   

Yes, nothing like competition for accelerating opportunity cost 
palpability for decision makers!
> Kingsley, I didn't at all understand your answer. The PDF I referenced lists the members of the PRISM consortium, which includes some big names in the publishing world. The point being, if commercial entities are actively using a metadata format that is trivially publishable as Linked Data, then wouldn't we hope to see this ending up in the LOD cloud. 
Sure.
> If it isn't, then why not? It would be a worry if the LOD cloud remains the preserve of the non-profit, governmental and academic communities.
>   


My gut reaction re. Data (TBox or ABox) is to get it loaded. Thus, when 
I see "Ontology...", I just want to load it, look at it, and then 
starting conjuring how it can impact the existing LOD cloud (which is 
still a little too ABox oriented).

My PDF comment was just my way of asking for a resource URL so I could 
load the ontology into our live LOD cloud cache instance [1] :-)

I assume you've seen the loaded ontology based on my last post re. this 
thread?

BTW - you can also query your data via SPARQL, and for scope the Named 
Graph IRI is: <urn:idealliance.org:filefolder:data:prism:rdfs> .

Basic dump query:
select * from <urn:idealliance.org:filefolder:data:prism:rdfs> where {?s 
?p ?o}

Links:

1. http://lod.openlinksw.com -- basic interface for full text queries 
(you can also use lookup by URI or rdfs:label tabs)
2. 
http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fprismstandard.org%2Fnamespaces%2F1.2%2Fbasic%2F 
-- nice way to view the ontology
3. http://lod.openlinksw.com/sparql -- SPARQL endpoint should you want query
4. http://lod.openlinksw.com/isparql -- iSPARQL interface to SPARQL 
based Query By Example .


I hope I am a little clearer now? We seek the same thing :-)


Kingsley


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hammond, Tony [mailto:t.hammond@nature.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:19 PM
> To: Kingsley Idehen; Hondros, Constantine
> Cc: public-lod@w3.org
> Subject: Re: PRISM data on the LOD cloud?
>
> Hi Kingsley:
>
>   
>> Kill me with the PDF URL :-(
>>     
>
> I think we could have been a tad more gracious here. This kind of remark
> only serves to alienate the well intentioned.
>
> You know, it's not actually (yet) a crime to put out a PDF on the open Web.
> Yes, it may not be the most "webby" of document formats but it does have
> certain viabilities.
>
> Re your question:
>
>   
>> Where can I see GET the RDF/XML resource?
>>     
>
> What on earth does this really mean? Which "resource" do you want to see?
> The link that was forwarded by the enquirer was to a specification document
> for generating resources with standalone RDF/XML descriptions as well as to
> embedded XMP (RDF/XML) packets.
>
> I'm not sure why that specification especially needs to be in RDF/XML. But
> there is an .rdfs [1] that I contributed to a somewhat older version of
> PRISM (1.2) if that helps you any. It needs to be updated and improved.
>
> As to the original query, there is already a large body of RDF/XML documents
> using PRISM available from academic publishers who have used it especially
> in their RSS feeds - and have been using it for > 5 years. See this RSS Best
> Practices document [2] from CrossRef - the organization promoting citation
> linking - which recommends that journals publishers use RSS 1.0 (i.e. the
> RDF flavour) and also that they use DC and PRISM for fuller descriptions.
>
> Also CrossRef are working on a similar document to encourage publishers to
> add XMP packets (with DC and PRISM) into their PDFs. Note that a couple of
> larger publishers are routinely adding XMP packets to their PDFs, and
> CrossRef is also devloping tools for smaller publishers [3]. (And I suppose
> if publishers must out PDFs then they are atoning to some degree in adding
> RDF/XML descriptions to these documents.;)
>
> So, at least on the scholarly publishing front there are ongoing efforts to
> make PRISM metadata terms available within RDF descriptions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> [1] http://www.idealliance.org/filefolder/prism.rdfs
>
> [2] http://oxford.crossref.org/best_practice/rss/
>
> [3]
> http://www.crossref.org/CrossTech/2009/12/add_crossref_metadata_to_pdfs.html
>
>
>
>
> On 1/7/10 22:37, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hondros, Constantine wrote:
>>     
>>> Has any PRISM content ever made it into the LOD cloud?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PRISM (Publishing Requirements for Industry Standard Metadata) is a
>>> metadata standard that can be encoded as RDF/XML (as well as XML, and
>>> XMP), which has been developed by an impressive industry consortium
>>> [1], and which, as far as I can tell, is being actively used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In other words, just the sort of high quality metadata we would hope
>>> to have in the LOD cloud, right? End-points, anyone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.prismstandard.org/PRISMUsers.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>
>   
>> Kill me with the PDF URL :-(
>>
>> Where can I see GET the RDF/XML resource?
>>     
>
>
>
> On 1/7/10 22:37, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hondros, Constantine wrote:
>>     
>>> Has any PRISM content ever made it into the LOD cloud?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PRISM (Publishing Requirements for Industry Standard Metadata) is a
>>> metadata standard that can be encoded as RDF/XML (as well as XML, and
>>> XMP), which has been developed by an impressive industry consortium
>>> [1], and which, as far as I can tell, is being actively used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In other words, just the sort of high quality metadata we would hope
>>> to have in the LOD cloud, right? End-points, anyone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.prismstandard.org/PRISMUsers.pdf
>>>
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>> Kill me with the PDF URL :-(
>>
>> Where can I see GET the RDF/XML resource?
>>     
>
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