Re: PRISM data on the LOD cloud?

Hondros, Constantine wrote:
> Thanks,
>   

Hondros,

> I am always looking out for datasets that will make management sit up and take notice of the LOD cloud (my organisation is a *large* global publisher). 

Ditto!
> UK and US government datasets have raised awareness that something is happening, but there's nothing like seeing the competition getting involved while you dally in the wings.
>   

Yes, nothing like competition for accelerating opportunity cost 
palpability for decision makers!
> Kingsley, I didn't at all understand your answer. The PDF I referenced lists the members of the PRISM consortium, which includes some big names in the publishing world. The point being, if commercial entities are actively using a metadata format that is trivially publishable as Linked Data, then wouldn't we hope to see this ending up in the LOD cloud. 
Sure.
> If it isn't, then why not? It would be a worry if the LOD cloud remains the preserve of the non-profit, governmental and academic communities.
>   


My gut reaction re. Data (TBox or ABox) is to get it loaded. Thus, when 
I see "Ontology...", I just want to load it, look at it, and then 
starting conjuring how it can impact the existing LOD cloud (which is 
still a little too ABox oriented).

My PDF comment was just my way of asking for a resource URL so I could 
load the ontology into our live LOD cloud cache instance [1] :-)

I assume you've seen the loaded ontology based on my last post re. this 
thread?

BTW - you can also query your data via SPARQL, and for scope the Named 
Graph IRI is: <urn:idealliance.org:filefolder:data:prism:rdfs> .

Basic dump query:
select * from <urn:idealliance.org:filefolder:data:prism:rdfs> where {?s 
?p ?o}

Links:

1. http://lod.openlinksw.com -- basic interface for full text queries 
(you can also use lookup by URI or rdfs:label tabs)
2. 
http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fprismstandard.org%2Fnamespaces%2F1.2%2Fbasic%2F 
-- nice way to view the ontology
3. http://lod.openlinksw.com/sparql -- SPARQL endpoint should you want query
4. http://lod.openlinksw.com/isparql -- iSPARQL interface to SPARQL 
based Query By Example .


I hope I am a little clearer now? We seek the same thing :-)


Kingsley


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hammond, Tony [mailto:t.hammond@nature.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:19 PM
> To: Kingsley Idehen; Hondros, Constantine
> Cc: public-lod@w3.org
> Subject: Re: PRISM data on the LOD cloud?
>
> Hi Kingsley:
>
>   
>> Kill me with the PDF URL :-(
>>     
>
> I think we could have been a tad more gracious here. This kind of remark
> only serves to alienate the well intentioned.
>
> You know, it's not actually (yet) a crime to put out a PDF on the open Web.
> Yes, it may not be the most "webby" of document formats but it does have
> certain viabilities.
>
> Re your question:
>
>   
>> Where can I see GET the RDF/XML resource?
>>     
>
> What on earth does this really mean? Which "resource" do you want to see?
> The link that was forwarded by the enquirer was to a specification document
> for generating resources with standalone RDF/XML descriptions as well as to
> embedded XMP (RDF/XML) packets.
>
> I'm not sure why that specification especially needs to be in RDF/XML. But
> there is an .rdfs [1] that I contributed to a somewhat older version of
> PRISM (1.2) if that helps you any. It needs to be updated and improved.
>
> As to the original query, there is already a large body of RDF/XML documents
> using PRISM available from academic publishers who have used it especially
> in their RSS feeds - and have been using it for > 5 years. See this RSS Best
> Practices document [2] from CrossRef - the organization promoting citation
> linking - which recommends that journals publishers use RSS 1.0 (i.e. the
> RDF flavour) and also that they use DC and PRISM for fuller descriptions.
>
> Also CrossRef are working on a similar document to encourage publishers to
> add XMP packets (with DC and PRISM) into their PDFs. Note that a couple of
> larger publishers are routinely adding XMP packets to their PDFs, and
> CrossRef is also devloping tools for smaller publishers [3]. (And I suppose
> if publishers must out PDFs then they are atoning to some degree in adding
> RDF/XML descriptions to these documents.;)
>
> So, at least on the scholarly publishing front there are ongoing efforts to
> make PRISM metadata terms available within RDF descriptions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> [1] http://www.idealliance.org/filefolder/prism.rdfs
>
> [2] http://oxford.crossref.org/best_practice/rss/
>
> [3]
> http://www.crossref.org/CrossTech/2009/12/add_crossref_metadata_to_pdfs.html
>
>
>
>
> On 1/7/10 22:37, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hondros, Constantine wrote:
>>     
>>> Has any PRISM content ever made it into the LOD cloud?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PRISM (Publishing Requirements for Industry Standard Metadata) is a
>>> metadata standard that can be encoded as RDF/XML (as well as XML, and
>>> XMP), which has been developed by an impressive industry consortium
>>> [1], and which, as far as I can tell, is being actively used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In other words, just the sort of high quality metadata we would hope
>>> to have in the LOD cloud, right? End-points, anyone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.prismstandard.org/PRISMUsers.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>
>   
>> Kill me with the PDF URL :-(
>>
>> Where can I see GET the RDF/XML resource?
>>     
>
>
>
> On 1/7/10 22:37, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hondros, Constantine wrote:
>>     
>>> Has any PRISM content ever made it into the LOD cloud?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PRISM (Publishing Requirements for Industry Standard Metadata) is a
>>> metadata standard that can be encoded as RDF/XML (as well as XML, and
>>> XMP), which has been developed by an impressive industry consortium
>>> [1], and which, as far as I can tell, is being actively used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In other words, just the sort of high quality metadata we would hope
>>> to have in the LOD cloud, right? End-points, anyone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.prismstandard.org/PRISMUsers.pdf
>>>
>>>
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>> Kill me with the PDF URL :-(
>>
>> Where can I see GET the RDF/XML resource?
>>     
>
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