- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:44:38 -0500
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
- CC: "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
Dan Brickley wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Damian Steer <d.steer@bristol.ac.uk> wrote: > >> Historical aside: >> >> On 17/02/10 11:20, Hugh Glaser wrote: >> >> >>> More recently I have also badged as Web of Data; >>> >> See [1], since 1998 :-) It's been used fairly regularly since then, although >> I'd highlight [2] as a particularly significant use of the term. >> >> Damian >> >> [1] <http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Semantic.html> >> [2] <http://www.plasticbag.org/archives/2006/02/my_future_of_web_apps_slides/> >> > > Yes, any use of the phrase "Web of data" that excludes or sidelines > work like Tom Coates' here ([2]) would be ... regrettable. There have > already been unfortuate run-ins in blog land about whether you can do > 'linked data' without using RDF in some LOD-approved manner. There is > much much more to 'data' than RDF (or OWL, or triples, or W3C SemWeb). > The Web's a big place and we have to be inclusive. RDF was originally > standardised as a metadata system, a mechanism for finding stuff ... > whether that stuff was photos, videos, HTML pages, excel spreadsheets, > SQL databases, 3d models. It can also be used to provide summaries or > normalisation of some of the information held in those data objects > too. But we shouldn't forget the original use case, nor sideline it. > Metadata about non-RDF documents is still linked data imho: all of > those forms of Web information are 'linked data' if we use W3C > information-linking technology to increase their findability. There's > more information out there than fits comfortably in triples or quads; > some of the best information is still in people's heads, after all. > FOAF was always blurbed as an "experimental linked information > system"; we should have been clearer that some of that info was in > triples, some in human-oriented documents, and some ... critically ... > was still in people's heads. The richness comes from the interplay > between those three forms of information. But I guess that's why I > still cling nostalgically to the word 'information' here, rather than > just 'data'. > > BTW an early and important paper in the 'web of data' line, which > tried to bring RDF and XML together as components of a larger > ('Semantic Web') story is http://www.w3.org/1999/04/WebData ... it > doesn't use the phrase explicitly (except in the url path maybe) but > it is clear on the need for an inclusive approach. > > cheers, > > Dan > > > Dan, I have a "history" tag on del.icio.us, would be nice if you tagged some of your precious historic links using this tag also :-) History is ultimately always the best teacher. Inclusiveness vs NIH has to be the dominant mindset in the emerging realm of Linked Data; nothing is new under the sun, bar context. If we improve on our historic mapping to related domains (as you do so well), we will be rewarded with a reduction in tutorial and definition burdens en route to the inevitable global epiphany re. Hyperdata. -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
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