- From: Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:48:30 -0500
- To: Georgi Kobilarov <georgi.kobilarov@gmx.de>
- Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org, public-lod@w3.org
- Message-ID: <f914914c0910170948p6ef753eawd143646737ce05b6@mail.gmail.com>
I agree with Georgi. I would like to know what others think about this.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Georgi Kobilarov
<georgi.kobilarov@gmx.de>wrote:
> > The Web of Linked
> > Data shouldn't be about mass crawling (search engine style) etc...
>
> It has to be. How would you answer a query like "all offers for a book
> written by a German author" without crawling the relevant data sets?
>
> Georgi
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-lod-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-request@w3.org] On
> > Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen
> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:58 PM
> > To: Juan Sequeda
> > Cc: hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org; public-lod@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: The Power of Virtuoso Sponger Technology
> >
> > Juan Sequeda wrote:
> > > Does Sindice crawl this (or any other semantic web search engines)?
> > Juan,
> >
> > Sponger is not about Sindice crawling our proxy URIs. The Web of Linked
> > Data shouldn't be about mass crawling (search engine style) etc... Its
> > really supposed to be about smarter data network traversals triggered
> > by
> > data access requests. Basically, make the pathway "on the fly",
> > remember
> > it for future reference, and know when its obsolete.
> >
> > If you look at it the other way round, our Sponger has Meta Cartridges
> > that will lookup Sindice (via their APIs) for specific data about a
> > various entities. It won't seek a complete dump of Sindice etc.. The
> > same applies to a plethora of Web 2.0 style services.
> >
> >
> > We can do smart database queries on the Web by simply meshing
> > fundamental database principles with the inherent sophistication of
> > HTTP :-)
> >
> > Kingsley
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
> > > Dept. of Computer Sciences
> > > The University of Texas at Austin
> > > www.juansequeda.com <http://www.juansequeda.com>
> > > www.semanticwebaustin.org <http://www.semanticwebaustin.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Martin Hepp (UniBW)
> > > <hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org <mailto:hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all:
> > >
> > > I just found out that the Virtuoso Sponger technology is even
> > more
> > > powerful than I thought.
> > >
> > > Briefly: "Spongers" create rich GoodRelations (and other RDF)
> > > meta-data
> > > for existing Web pages on-the-fly. Other than traditional
> > > screen-scraping approaches, Spongers reuse public APIs and other
> > > techniques, so the data is of unprecedented degree of structure.
> > >
> > > Now, this can be directly used in arbitrary queries... by simply
> > using
> > > the URI of the *existing* HTML Web page in the FROM clause of a
> > SPARQL
> > > query.
> > >
> > > Example:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/Semantic-Web-Real-World-Applications-
> > Industry/dp/0387485309
> > >
> > > is a Web page in plain HTML offering a book. Amazon does not yet
> > > produce GoodRelations meta-data on their pages.
> > >
> > > If you go to
> > >
> > > http://uriburner.com/sparql
> > >
> > > and paste the URI in the "Default Graph URI " field and select
> > > "Retrieve
> > > remote RDF for all missing source graphs", then a query like
> > >
> > > "SELECT * WHERE {?s ?p ?o} LIMIT 50"
> > >
> > > returns a fully-fledged GoodRelations description for that page -
> > > as if
> > > Amazon was already supporting GoodRelations for each of its > 4
> > > million
> > > items!
> > >
> > > There are spongers for BestBuy, eBay, Zillow, and many other
> > types of
> > > resources.
> > >
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > Congrats to Kingsley and his team!
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > >
> > > Martin Hepp
> > >
> > > --
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > martin hepp
> > > e-business & web science research group
> > > universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
> > >
> > > e-mail: hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org <mailto:hepp@ebusiness-
> > unibw.org>
> > > phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217
> > > fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620
> > > www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group)
> > > http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal)
> > > skype: mfhepp
> > > twitter: mfhepp
> > >
> > > Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data!
> > > =================================================================
> > >
> > > Webcast:
> > > http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/
> > >
> > > Recipe for Yahoo SearchMonkey:
> > > http://www.ebusiness-
> > unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_and_Yahoo_SearchMonkey
> > >
> > > Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009:
> > > "Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology"
> > > http://www.slideshare.net/mhepp/semantic-webbased-ecommerce-the-
> > goodrelations-ontology-1535287
> > >
> > > Overview article on Semantic Universe:
> > > http://www.semanticuniverse.com/articles-semantic-web-based-e-
> > commerce-webmasters-get-ready.html
> > >
> > > Project page:
> > > http://purl.org/goodrelations/
> > >
> > > Resources for developers:
> > > http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations
> > >
> > > Tutorial materials:
> > > CEC'09 2009 Tutorial: The Web of Data for E-Commerce: A Hands-on
> > > Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo!
> > > SearchMonkey
> > > http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/Web_of_Data_for_E-
> > Commerce_Tutorial_IEEE_CEC%2709
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kingsley Idehen Weblog:
> http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
> > President & CEO
> > OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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