- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:09:27 -0400
- To: John Goodwin <John.Goodwin@ordnancesurvey.co.uk>
- CC: public-lod@w3.org, semantic-web@w3.org
John Goodwin wrote: > > Hi, > > I was just curious how many OWL sceptics we have in the LOD community? > Rightly or wrongly I get the impression there are a few? > > I've been integrating various LOD resource for a small demo at work > and have come to the realisation than a bit of relatively simple OWL > goes a long way in making the integration process more complete. Not > that is was a great surprise really, but you soon realise that > owl:sameAs only gets you so far. IMHO we really need to get OWL into > the LOD mix for linking vocabularies/ontologies as well as data at the > instance level. RDFS is not enough. > > A few simple examples… Say I want to integrate freebase and Dbpedia - > they both use there own ontologies/vocabularies/schema etc. Obviously > I can do owl:sameAs between common instances, but this doesn't fully > integrate the data in the way I would want. I was trying to do a > little demo around events, places and bands and soon found that > Dbpedia new about different bands from freebase. A simple query like > "find me information on punk rock bands playing in venues in > Southampton" was incomplete if I only used owl:sameAs. To get the full > information I needed to link the Dbpedia and freebase ontologies using: > > PunkRockGroups = music.musical_group and music.artist.genre value > en.punk_rock (Manchester OWL syntax). > > This way a query for things rdf:type PunkRockGroups also selects the > punk bands freebase knows about but Dbpedia doesn't…just doing > owl:sameAs would merely get information about punk bands that freebase > and Dbpedia share in common. > > Furthermore to link information about people born in Southampton from > freebase and Dbpedia I has to used: > > location.location.people_born_here owl:inverseOf dbpedia:birthplace > > Again a query dbpedia:birthplace Southampton now finds me people > freebase knows about as well as Dbpedia. > > Other simple examples of needing OWL with LOD are genealogy. I've > started to convert my family tree into RDF, e.g.: > > _http://www.johngoodwin.me.uk/family/I0265_ > _http://www.johngoodwin.me.uk/family/I0243_ > > A bit of OWL e.g.: > > Parent = foaf:Person and isParentOf some foaf:Person > > isParentOf o isBrotherOf -> isUncleOf > > Uncle = foaf:Person and isUncleOf some foaf:Person > > Would save me writing long SPARQL queries for find instances of > Parent, Uncle etc. > > I know this isn't rocket science, but really hope a few simple > examples will start to convince OWL sceptics that OWL can really spice > up [1] LOD. > > Thoughts, comments, flamings :) welcome.. > > John > > [1] as Kingley would say > > > > *Dr John Goodwin* > *Research Scientist, Research, Ordnance Survey* > C530, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU > Phone: +44 (0) 23 8030 5756 > _www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk|_ <file://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk%7C> > john.goodwin@ordnancesurvey.co.uk > *Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing > this email* > John, I frequently state the following: Linked Data is a bowl of spaghetti, OWL gives us the sauce, and inference rules the spicing. You need all three to make a really good meal :-) Re. LOD and OWL I really don't know what the issues are per se. I do know from experience that interest in the likes of Yago, UMBEL, and OpenCyc remains strangely lukewarm. Even worse, I still see over generalized comments like: you can't reason over huge data sets even though we've offered inference rules based on Yago, UMBEL, and OpenCyc for over a year re. DBpedia [1] and more recently the larger Virtuoso instance which stores most of the LOD cloud datasets [2]. We handle, owl:sameAs, subclass, subproperty, equivalentClass, IFPs [3]. Note: re. <http://lod.openlinksw.com> when start your query from the "Search" tab, once you have an initial results page there is an "options" link for switching on inferences rules and owl:sameAs expansion, enable these options, andsubsequent queries will run with the Virtuoso's inference pragmas for SPARQL enabled. Also, simply click the SPARQL link to see the generated query. Example: DEFINE input:inference "http://dbpedia.org/resource/inference/rules/yago#" DEFINE input:same-as "yes" SELECT ?s1c as ?c1 count (distinct (?s1)) as ?c2 WHERE { ?s1 ?s1textp ?o1 . ?o1 bif:contains '(BILL AND CLINTON)' . ?s1 a ?s1c .?s1 a <http://dbpedia.org/class/yago/Leader109623038> . } GROUP BY ?s1c order by desc 2 limit 20 offset 0 Links: 1. http://dbpedia.org/sparql 2. http://lod.openlinksw.com/sparql 3. http://tr.im/l7HD -- a page that sheds more light on how we put inference rules to use re. <http://lod.openlinksw.com> 4. http://www.mail-archive.com/dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00263.html --Yago examples from the past re. DBpedia inference rules (which are always in place) 6. http://www.mail-archive.com/public-lod@w3.org/msg00870.html -- UMBEL examples variant of what exists for Yago 7. http://osdir.com/ml/web.semantic.dbpedia.general/2008-05/msg00053.html -- DBpedia subproperties examples using Yago -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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