Re: A proposal for two additional properties for LOCN

I would also be in favor of not using global domain and range restrictions.
Best,
Krzysztof

On 09/06/2014 06:05 PM, Andrea Perego wrote:
> Hi, Frans.
>
> My comments inline.
>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> 1. For both properties, I wouldn't specify their domain and range, but
>>> I would add a usage note. I would also define them only as
>>> rdf:Property's, at least for the moment.
>> For now I have removed the domain restrictions from the wiki page (they are
>> struck through).  I left the range specifications in place for now, pending
>> further discussion.
> Thanks, Frans.
>
>> 2. Should these properties be made more generic, so that they can be
>> used also to specify the temporal ref system / resolution?
>>
>> This relates back to the space and time talk.  Was there a clear conclusion
>> to be drawn from that?
>>
>> My opinion still is that there is no reason to handle space and time in the
>> same vocabulary. I think it is better if concepts for location and concepts
>> for time are developed in different vocabularies, overseen by the respective
>> domain experts.  It is true that publishers of location data can have a
>> great need of temporal expressiveness and that there is a current lack of a
>> good time ontology, but still I think the concerns are best left separate.
> I was thinking that, if a property allows specifying resolution as a
> pair "number + unit of measure", I can potentially used it also with
> units of measure not related to space. So, to rephrase my question,
> should we a priori prevent this?
>
> Note that this is not meant to be a rhetorical question. There may
> well be reasons to have specific properties for spatial and temporal
> resolution - e.g., because of reasons similar to those behind the
> definition of dct:coverage, dct:spatial and dct:temporal, explained by
> Makx [1].
>
>>> 3. For (spatial) resolution, I think we should find a way to specify
>>> arbitrary units of measure - I wouldn't exclude a priori the
>>> possibility of encoding them as literals (e.g., 5m, 100x100px).
>> If the spatial resolution is a number, some very convenient ways of using it
>> can be thought of. For example:
>>
>> "Give me the geometry of the city of Paris with the highest spatial
>> resolution"
>> "Give me all datasets about vegetation in Poland with a spatial resolution
>> between 100 and 500 meters"
>>
>> Now if the range of spatialResolution is left unspecified, wouldn't that
>> discourage this kind of usage? And wouldn't it discourage data publishers to
>> specify the spatial resolution is a useful way?
>> If the spatialResolution is not a number with a specified unit (meters), I
>> am afraid that it can not be used effectively for automated data processing,
>> that it would always require a human to make sense of the value.
> I see the point, but I'm still not sure the range should default to a
> given unit of measure. People are not using just the metric system,
> and some software agents may be optimized for using metres, feet, etc.
>
> For these reasons, I'd rather specify it explicitly, either by using
> an approach similar to the one of GoodRelations, mentioned by Bart
> [2], or by using a syntax encoding scheme, as the one used for CSSs
> [3] - provided that a use case exists for this solution.
>
> Andrea
>
> ----
> [1]https://www.w3.org/community/locadd/wiki/Space_and_Time#Discussion_4
> [2]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-locadd/2014Sep/0013.html
> [3]http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/
>


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