- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:25:38 -0800
- To: Ross Singer <ross.singer@talis.com>
- Cc: public-lld@w3.org
Quoting Ross Singer <ross.singer@talis.com>: > The LC FRBR Display Tool ( > http://www.loc.gov/marc/marc-functional-analysis/tool.html#table) only > mentions record type and publication language, but surely this isn't enough, > right? This: http://lccn.loc.gov/74194328 isn't describing the same > expression as this: http://lccn.loc.gov/97813632, correct? That's where my bugaboo about the dependency shows up. You can't ever JUST look at the Expression, you always have to take into account the Expression+Work combination. Otherwise, we'd have half the library universe connected to a single expression for an English-language text. Expressions on their own are not meaningful. (And Manifestations on their own are only minimally meaningful.) kc > > -Ross. > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Richard Light > <richard@light.demon.co.uk>wrote: > >> In message >> <52E301F960B30049ADEFBCCF1CCAEF590BBB715A@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>, >> "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org> writes >> >> >>> Inferencing aside, having half the story for an Expression or Work is >>> still enough to justify identifying these individuals. I wouldn't >>> consider them any less "real" than their fully described counterparts. >>> UUIDs are free. This allows downstream agents to assert owl:sameAs with >>> another individual and thus fill in more of the story on both sides. >>> (As mere mortals, we'll never ever have "the full story" on anything.) >>> >> >> I've been meaning to contribute to this thread for a few days now ... >> >> I strongly agree with the thought that an entity can be given a URL, and >> thereby you can finesse the need for the "concept is the sum of its >> properties" approach. We will have many similar cases in the museum >> world, where information about an entity of interest (person, place, >> event, ...) will be incomplete, or uncertain, or both. This shouldn't >> stop us from asserting what we _do_ know (or believe). >> >> As a matter of interest, where does FRBRoo >> (http://www.cidoc-crm.org/frbr_inro.html) come into this discussion? >> >> Richard >> -- >> Richard Light >> >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> Find out more about Talis at http://www.talis.com/ >> shared innovation™ >> >> >> Any views or personal opinions expressed within this email may not be those >> of Talis Information Ltd or its employees. The content of this email message >> and any files that may be attached are confidential, and for the usage of >> the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, then >> please return this message to the sender and delete it. Any use of this >> e-mail by an unauthorised recipient is prohibited. >> >> Talis Information Ltd is a member of the Talis Group of companies and is >> registered in England No 3638278 with its registered office at Knights >> Court, Solihull Parkway, Birmingham Business Park, B37 7YB. >> >> Talis North America is Talis Inc., 11400 Branch Ct., Fredericksburg, VA >> 22408, United States of America. >> > -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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