- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:36:33 -0700
- To: public-lld@w3.org
Quoting "gordon@gordondunsire.com" <gordon@gordondunsire.com>: > e.g. http://bl.info/bnb#1234 (Resource), http://bl.info/bnb#1234W (Work), > http://bl.info/bnb#1234E (Expression), http://bl.info/bnb#1234M > (Manifestation). > > What would actually be published is a set of triples of the form: > > <WEM/Resource URI> <has BNB number> "BNB number". Doesn't this result in there being multiple bnb numbers for the same work and the same expression? Alex Haffner demonstrated a flow chart of the Europeana process at the meeting in Cologne last year that was in two steps: the first looked just like this, and the second was where they merged works and expressions and assigned those new "merged" URIs. So you'd have W123 -> WXX E123 -> E99 M123 W789 -> WXX E789 -> E88 M789 Well, it would be easier to explain on paper than in email, but you probably get the drift. I actually like the idea of the WEM having non-merged and merged identifiers -- although that's based on system management functions rather than the data model. The non-merged IDs can be local, while the merged ones will be ideal for sharing. (Hmmm,,, got to think about that some more.) kc > > This would allow other projects to avoid creating duplicate URIs subsequently > linked with OWL equivalence properties. > > A project would have to know, say, the BNB number ... The same approach could > use other identifiers such as ISBN, etc., although there is significant > ambiguity (not everything has an ISBN, some ISBNs are plain wrong, etc.). > Extending this further, it might be necessary to publish some > additional triples > giving further identification data such as title and edition (i.e. a minimal > identification/description set of triples): > > <WEM/Resource URI> <has title proper> "The title". > <WEM/Resource URI> <has publication date> "2008". > etc. > > This approach also minimises the quantity of triples that an agency needs to > publish, reduces barriers due to rights issues, and extends the > formal role of a > national bibliographic agency in recording, preserving, and disseminating the > publication output of that nation. > > Also, declaring which URI minting pattern is used will allow projects to mint > future-proof URIs for local stuff. > > OK, in practice things would not be as straightforward (e.g. national > bibliography numbers referencing Manifestations instead of > Expressions or Works, > ISBNs usually reference Manifestations but are often used to reference Works, > etc.). > > I guess OCLC could use a similar approach on behalf of its members > (especially > those who are national agencies). > > Does this make sense? > > Cheers > > Gordon > > > > > > > On 28 April 2011 at 04:51 Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org> wrote: > >> > >> > We can obviously change the wording. But I still am not sure what we are >> > promoting in terms of prioritizing the creation of URIs. Can we use Tom's >> > wording? >> > >> > "Very broadly, the "library world", along with standards >> > developers such as W3C, FOAF, and DCMI should work on assigning >> > URIs to properties and classes. But creators of specific >> > Linked Data projects should be concerned first and foremost >> > with _creating_ URIs for their things -- the "instances" about >> > they want to make statements -- then re-use URIs for properties >> > and classes (when possible) in order to make those statements." >> >> +1 for Tom's wording : great summary, as usual ;-) >> Emma >> >> >> > >> > kc >> > >> > Quoting Ed Summers <ehs@pobox.com>: >> > >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I think we're agreeing that "assigning URIs" is a key point >> >>> but that for the sake of readers we need to distinguish "URIs >> >>> for properties and classes" from "URIs for dataset items >> >>> (instances)". >> >> >> >> Nicely put Tom. I second Jeff's recommendation to at least reference >> >> ABox and TBox to ground the more library friendly definitions wherever >> >> that may happen: glossary, etc. >> >> >> >> //Ed >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Karen Coyle >> > kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net >> > ph: 1-510-540-7596 >> > m: 1-510-435-8234 >> > skype: kcoylenet >> > >> > >> > >> -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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