- From: Ross Singer <ross.singer@talis.com>
- Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:05:21 -0400
- To: "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org>
- Cc: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, public-lld <public-lld@w3.org>
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote: > The counter argument is that the dcterms:hasVersion/isVersionOf solution > isn't documented anywhere and other solutions are plausible. Without a > systematic connection, SPARQL connections between Work and Manifestation > become a guessing game. > You'll notice that in my example I didn't use dcterms:hasVersion/isVersionOf, but rather rda:workManifested (which, actually, looking more closely at it, doesn't seem right either: "A work embodied in a manifestation." with no range -- implying a literal?). My point actually isn't either of those, it just is making the point that a direct relationship between M and W is useful, simple and eliminates a lot of hand waving and teeth gnashing with no discernible downside. And while, no, dcterms:hasVersion/isVersionOf isn't documented anywhere, if this group saw it as useful (or any other combination of inverse relationships, including something new) it could document, recommend and endorse it. Then your semantics are there. There is practically zero RDF/FRBR/RDA data to draw upon presently - I don't see the point in stubbornly sticking to the letter of a model that is currently unproven, unused and doesn't deal well with our hundreds of millions of legacy records. Is the FRBR model so immutable that it cannot exist with the addition of a direct relationship between W and M? If it eases the transition of the old into the new and reduces costs, wouldn't that generally be considered beneficial? > The question is, how much grief will the RDF designer get for wanting to > coin a new 303 URI? If the framework is flexible, then go ahead and have > them coin a 303 URI for Expression: > > http://example.org/expression/45678 a frbr:Expression . > > My suggestion of using a hash assumes that Expression will always be a > twin to Work and is easily piggybacked on it without fighting for > infrastructure support. If and when Expressions deserve 303 URIs, the > old hash URIs can migrate to the 303 URI using owl:sameAs. > Unless assertions are applied to the Fauxpression and then you get into reconciliation, which is expensive and most likely requires human intervention. If the Fauxpression is, indeed, just a placeholder that we aren't expecting to add any assertions to -- again, I ask, what's the point? Just to make things more complicated? I guess it's just not clear to me what is lost with a three-way relationship between W,E and M that requires this Expression-as-sole-gatekeeper between Work and Manifestation (which, given our historical data -- and the historical record on the interpretation of 'what is an Expression?' -- is going to be nothing but problematic). My personal opinion is that any RDF representation of FRBR, owing to RDF's open world assumption, should be able to account for any entity being missing from the initial point of modeling -- if all you "know" about is the Item and the Work (or Expression or whatever), then we should be able to go with that and patch in the blank holes later. -Ross.
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