- From: Martin Malmsten <Martin.Malmsten@kb.se>
- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 22:29:46 +0200
- To: Ross Singer <ross.singer@talis.com>, "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org>
- Cc: public-lld <public-lld@w3.org>
Jeff, Ross, we use $0 when exporting our bibliographic[1] records which is why I chose it. Again this is just testing, but it seems a likely candidate. > It seems applicable, but the context it would be used in would sort of > imply the opposite meaning than what it does in bibliographic records. I see the link as going either "sideways" to another authority record/page/resource or "upwards", e.g from our 750 to a LCSH. In the latter case we would ultimately want to propagate changes made to the LCSH into our record, making the link behave like between a bib and an auth. /martin On Oct 1, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Ross Singer wrote: > Jeff, > > The 1xx$0 is actually used in bib records (not authority) and is defined as: > $0 - Authority record control number (R) > > http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd100.html > > It seems applicable, but the context it would be used in would sort of > imply the opposite meaning than what it does in bibliographic records. > > -Ross. > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote: >> Martin, >> >> I can believe that "the 1XX identifies what the record is *about*" and would challenge anyone to argue otherwise. >> >> What is your argument for choosing $0 rather than $u? Neither are currently specified and $u appears to be commonly used for URIs in other fields: >> >> http://www.loc.gov/marc/856guide.html#other_fields >> >> Jeff >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se] >>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 3:32 PM >>> To: Young,Jeff (OR) >>> Cc: public-lld@w3.org >>> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities >>> >>> Jeff, >>> >>> I understand, but would not putting a $0 in the 1XX accomplish just >>> that since the 1XX identifies what the record is "about"? I'm just >>> saying that by using $0 you could link to other things (or Things) from >>> other parts of the record as well. >>> >>> However, we do actually use 856 with a $z in our production environment >>> today. It works, but I do not like the amount of implicit information >>> with this (or rather our version of this) solution. >>> >>> Example: >>> 100 '1' ' ' $aStrindberg, August, $d1849-1912 >>> 856 '4' '8' $uhttp://viaf.org/viaf/54154627 $zVIAF >>> >>> /martin >>> >>> On Oct 1, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote: >>> >>>> Martin, >>>> >>>> I think our use cases are getting mixed up. I want a place to >>> identify the thing the Authority record (as a whole) represents. >>> Linking to *other* things inside a MARC record is a harder and more >>> controversial problem as Michael's response indicates. I'm hoping this >>> is low-hanging fruit, but I admit the difference is subtle. >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se] >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:36 PM >>>>> To: Young,Jeff (OR) >>>>> Cc: public-lld@w3.org >>>>> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities >>>>> >>>>> Jeff, Karen. >>>>> >>>>> I prefer a subfield over a field because may I want to link only >>> parts >>>>> of the record, and not necessarily the 1XX-field, to another >>> resource >>>>> without having to resort to a $8-link (*shudder*). >>>>> >>>>> Example: >>>>> 150 ' ' ' ' $aMödrar >>>>> 750 ' ' '0' $aMothers $0 >>>>> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85087526#concept >>>>> >>>>> /martin >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 1, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How about this: >>>>>> >>>>>> 856 4# $u http://example.org/foo >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's the documentation for the field: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad856.html >>>>>> http://www.loc.gov/marc/856guide.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Martin Malmsten [mailto:Martin.Malmsten@kb.se] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:26 PM >>>>>> To: Young,Jeff (OR) >>>>>> Cc: public-lld@w3.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: Linked Data URIs in MARC Authorities >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm considering/testing $0 in the 1XX fields, analogues to $0 in >>> the >>>>> bib record. The idea is that a DbPedia/Freebase/VIAF URI could >>>>> authorise an authority record. "Global headings change" becomes a >>> fun >>>>> challenge with LD URIs within the record :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1 okt 2010, at 18:00, "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If somebody wanted to put a Linked Data RWO URI in a MARC Authority >>>>> record, where would it plausibly go? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Jeffrey A. 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