- From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 18:53:35 +0100
- To: Erik Wilde <Erik.Wilde@emc.com>
- Cc: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>, Steve K Speicher <sspeiche@gmail.com>, Alexandre Bertails <bertails@w3.org>, Linked Data Platform WG <public-ldp-wg@w3.org>
On 7 Nov 2013, at 18:36, Wilde, Erik <Erik.Wilde@emc.com> wrote: > hello eric. > > On 2013-11-06, 14:53 , "Eric Prud'hommeaux" <eric@w3.org> wrote: >> Yeah, the client shared it after getting it back from the server that >> created the resource, or some other client interrogated the container >> and found some member which matched some interesting properties. >> The text I was replying to is included above: "But that only allows >> the client that POSTed the resource to know the address of the LDPR >> created. It would be useful if other clients could also find that >> resource by asking the LDPC." This implies to me that some other >> client is known to be interested in a resource as it is created. >> What protocol does this imply? Is it that some client subscribes to >> every new resource created by POST to a container? Is it that it has a >> special pairing with the POSTing client but the POSTing client won't >> share the newly created resource? > > looking at it from a feedish perspective again: a variety of protocol > models can be based on collection/item patterns, but the ability to > discover new resources via hypermedia controls seems like the necessary > first step without which nothing else will work. > > in feed-land, there's no push. when clients pull, they may find new > resources. if a new URI shows up, something new has been created. > > a little while ago, PuSH was suggested that would move this to a push > model based on hubs that clients can subscribe to, and then there's a > callback-driven protocol. but the latest PuSH draft totally went off the > reservation and has hollowed out the protocol beyond anything meaningful > (i guess executives would now talk about it as a "protocol framework"), so > maybe PuSH is not such a great pick anymore. > > regardless of the protocol and the interactions you're trying to support > through it, the ability to discover resources seems like a REST 101 > feature that might be the first thing that anybody using LDP would want to > have. +1 ( Just needed to say so, since we have often disagreed :-) > cheers, > > dret. > Social Web Architect http://bblfish.net/
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