Re: Proposal for containers - LDP is not part of the web ???

On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:43, "Wilde, Erik" <Erik.Wilde@emc.com> wrote:

> On 2013-01-31 19:33 , "Henry Story" <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
>> On 31 Jan 2013, at 15:47, "Wilde, Erik" <Erik.Wilde@emc.com> wrote:
>>> that works on the semantic web (where you expose things via RDF), but not
>>> on the web (where you have to live with HTTP's uniform interface).
>> The semantic web is not part of the web?
>> And LDP is perhaps not part of the web either? As far as I know
>> LDP uses HTTP, and all the big Linked Data projects use HTTP. Some
>> even use HTTPs.
> 
> the semantic web is layered on top of the web's fabric, adding new layers
> of technologies and constraints. the famous semantic web layer cake shows
> that very nicely.

Those are logical layers. They are just making explicit what is already 
in the web. 

There is nothing special about publishing RDF, wether it be in the form of Turtle,
RDF/XML, JSON-LD, Trig, N3, ... It uses exactly the same web infrastructure you
use for publishing html, json, or javascript. You can use a plain vanilla 
Apache web server to do it. 

It helps to publish some RDF, to write some linked data to get a feel for
it. If you just sit back and do armchair theorising about linked data you
will keep missing the point.

I do recommend cwm as a nice little tool though to get going
  http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/doc/cwm.html
And the Tutorial on that page is also very good.

Also I recommend reading Dean Allemang and Jim Hendler's book 
"Semantic Web for the Working Ontologist". It makes it clear how
reaoning is working. One should make sure one requires as little
reasoning as possible when writing protocols, but understanding the 
possibilities opened up there is a very good intellectual exercise.

Henry

> 
> cheers,
> 
> dret.
> 

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